2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

[rifrafs2kees]

So according to Horner, Lewis lap wrekd’ the RBS despite no straight line speed advantage? Just driving corners better? No rocket? That don’t make sense

What’s the betting he’s got some news from the stewards that the Mercedes wing is entirely legal.

Horner must be pretty demoralised after that then, because He obviously thought that wing was the secret to lewis’ pace. I’ve said it before, down force makes cars fly around corners, it’s not all driver. But the hyperbole from low res thinking fans continues on all sides.

Maybe all this wing bullshoot has distracted RB too much and hurt them

Couldn't agree with you more. In Brazil, with the exception of Verstappen and Checo to some extent, Hamilton could follow preceding cars closely in sectors 2 and 3. In fact the w12 had superb traction of turn 14 . All these contributed to Hamilton maximizing the tow. The straight line speed was the icing in the cake.

[taperoo2k]

What’s the problem Dans

he set his fastest 3rd sector, and showed no signs of lifting off when he passed through the double waved yellows.

That's 2 no nos.

Same as Bottas. If anything all Verstappen will get is a deleted time and reprimand. It's there in the event notes.

If he didn't slow down for double waved Yellow Flags, it's usually a grid penalty as it's a breach of the safety regulations, not sporting regulations. I'm not that bothered about it, tbh the more worrying thing is precisely why Gasly's tyre got a puncture and failed. Might limit the options in the race if there is an issue with that compound of tyre.

Lewis has found his form and motivation just when needs it, Max will have to raise his game tomorrow. If Red Bull protest the result they'd be better be sure they've got a breach of the rules nailed down or they are going to look rather silly. It has been a while since they've been in contention for both titles, so the pressure/desperation to win might be getting to the team, thus they are losing focus at a crucial point. Lets hope Red Bull and Mercedes have produced fantastic cars for next season so this battle can continue. It's been highly entertaining, and I care not who wins the drivers title this year.

[politburo]

You really watched that video in high definition and couldn't see the yellow flag waved clearly in the top left?. Damn!

Please post screenshot

Alright. First one is the prep lap,2nd one is the hotlap.

[El Scorchio]

Yeah if both Max and Bottas didnt slow down then punish them both.

Exactly. And in all honesty, with Perez down the field, they should go for it even if Bottas is affected similarly as it’s not going to make a dent in the WCC standings but could make a key difference in the WDC standings.

But my guess is nothing comes of it.

[politburo]

Well Garry Connelly is a steward this weekend and apparently RBR and Max don’t like him as he makes decisions (applies the rules) against Max

Decisions are made to account for adverse consequences and to punish drivers for wrongdoing and breaking rules, not just arbitrarily made FOR one driver or AGAINST one driver.

[El Scorchio]

he set his fastest 3rd sector, and showed no signs of lifting off when he passed through the double waved yellows.

That's 2 no nos.

Same as Bottas. If anything all Verstappen will get is a deleted time and reprimand. It's there in the event notes.

If he didn't slow down for double waved Yellow Flags, it's usually a grid penalty as it's a breach of the safety regulations, not sporting regulations. I'm not that bothered about it, tbh the more worrying thing is precisely why Gasly's tyre got a puncture and failed. Might limit the options in the race if there is an issue with that compound of tyre.

Lewis has found his form and motivation just when needs it, Max will have to raise his game tomorrow. If Red Bull protest the result they'd be better be sure they've got a breach of the rules nailed down or they are going to look rather silly. It has been a while since they've been in contention for both titles, so the pressure/desperation to win might be getting to the team, thus they are losing focus at a crucial point. Lets hope Red Bull and Mercedes have produced fantastic cars for next season so this battle can continue. It's been highly entertaining, and I care not who wins the drivers title this year.

It was because his front wing broke on the curbs and punctured it. It was caused by debris.

[AeroDynamic]

Sooo riddle me this:

What happens if MV goes into the first corner on the outside on lap 1 tomorrow, and a Merc lets go of the brakes, pushing him out wide, off the track, and then some onto the gravel ?

Penalty, or no penalty ?

Penalty

Nope, DSQ for trying to deliberately take someone out.

[siskue2005]

You really watched that video in high definition and couldn't see the yellow flag waved clearly in the top left?. Damn!

Please post screenshot

Alright. First one is the prep lap,2nd one is the hotlap.

https://i.imgur.com/RjfoEhs.png

https://i.imgur.com/DrQmDkZ.png

Thats not double waved yellow flag'
See the video from Max, it has 2 flags waving

[InsaneX_Badger]

Issue is. In the max video, the board on the right side of the track is green. If Merc do pursue it, RB could have a defence saying that the Marshall did one thing and the trackside boards another? Or does one have precedent over the other?

[El Scorchio]

Sooo riddle me this:

What happens if MV goes into the first corner on the outside on lap 1 tomorrow, and a Merc lets go of the brakes, pushing him out wide, off the track, and then some onto the gravel ?

Penalty, or no penalty ?

Penalty

Nope, DSQ for trying to deliberately take someone out.

I hope no one in ANY car does this to anyone else between now and the end of the season.

[Hammerfist]

You really watched that video in high definition and couldn't see the yellow flag waved clearly in the top left?. Damn!

Please post screenshot

Alright. First one is the prep lap,2nd one is the hotlap.

https://i.imgur.com/RjfoEhs.png

https://i.imgur.com/DrQmDkZ.png

but the flag is not being waved when Bottas goes through it looks like the marshall is just holding the flag

[politburo]

Although i expect no penalty whatsoever,if there is anything punishable and worth achieving then they should go for it and hell even if Bottas broke the rules himself send him in the back as well next to Max he can easily murder him in the midfield! LOL! But lets face it its funny people still posting/debating/arguing about rules and breach of them. They (rules) have been thrown in the FIA trash bin as of late.They simply don't care,they are just busy flexing the Mercedes rear wings and doing what Karen Horner says The way i see it is that Masi and co. have really f**ked up can't wait for this season to be over!

Tbh, fans should start a petition to demote Massi, huge embarrassment.

The fact that it’s been reported most drivers feel unclear about the rules after, is a joke.

Most drivers feel unclear about the rules how is that Masi's job to tell them?. They have team briefings, driver's briefings where they talk about that. And for the fans who have absolutely no idea of the rules that is their fault, all the resources are there on the FIA website, yet the fans choose to do guesswork and construct their own realities regardless like "FIA is against Hamilton, FIA wants Verstappen to win" pure insanity.

[KeiKo403]

Well Garry Connelly is a steward this weekend and apparently RBR and Max don’t like him as he makes decisions (applies the rules) against Max

Decisions are made to account for adverse consequences and to punish drivers for wrongdoing and breaking rules, not just arbitrarily made FOR one driver or AGAINST one driver.

Will all due respect, the decisions regarding last weeks incident suggests otherwise.

[Noble29]

Issue is. In the max video, the board on the right side of the track is green. If Merc do pursue it, RB could have a defence saying that the Marshall did one thing and the trackside boards another? Or does one have precedent over the other?

I can't tell which side of the fencing the lightboard is on, but could it be possible that 'green light' is actually on the other side of the fencing and is meant for cars in the pitlane?

[djones]

Don’t be getting excited about Max getting reprimanded for something. It ain’t going to happen.