2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

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codetower wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 01:46
One thing I feel the FIA need to get better at is the speed in which they make decisions on things like this. This one seems a little more black-and-white than the last one. Imagine if RB were thinking of taking a new engine for VER while he’s P2 but now they can’t make that call yet. Same with Mercedes, if Verstappen starts seventh, maybe they decide to take a Newington for Hamilton. But that decision would have to wait as well and there’s no way either could swap engines one or two hours before the race.
It feels like as with so many decisions they dithered about it for two hours after the session ended and everyone of note had probably left the circuit for the day or started doing other things.

Or, and this might be slightly controversial, initially decided to try and ignore/ostrich it but then saw it was all over the internet and realised they couldn’t do so any longer.

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I'm excessively into a drinking session so may have missed some vital information.

If Max is up for investigation he will be let off lightly (or totally). Have we learnt nothing other than F1 is now about 'the show' beyond fairness or rules.

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djones wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 03:26
I'm excessively into a drinking session so may have missed some vital information.

If Max is up for investigation he will be let off lightly (or totally). Have we learnt nothing other than F1 is now about 'the show' beyond fairness or rules.
I'm jealous. I'm craving a nice glass of beer.

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for those that care!

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... eering.pdf

After the qualifying practice session:
The minimum distance between the adjacent rear wing sections at any longitudinal vertical plane was
checked on car numbers 44, 77, 33, 04, 05, 14, 31, 55, 22 and 10.
201 105 104 9 9 7

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Re: 2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

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Probably totally irrelevant, but how different would the track drive if the track limits were not so ridiculous? Certainly less flowing, but how much slower?
Perspective - Understanding that sometimes the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

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What a mess by race control...

Just checked some onboards.
Vettel only lifted after he passed Gasly.
Norris' team radio: 'yellow, slo... Track clear track clear'. Great way to totally confuse a driver.

They should simply have a minimum time for yellows. If they bring it out, have a minimum time to clear it so race control is forced to properly assess it.

10 places grid penalty for race control!

(And yes, a penalty for the drivers, but I don't really blame them with all the mixed signals)

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Does anybody have the mini sector times because I think I saw that Max was yellow in the final two mini sectors
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nevill3 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:39
Does anybody have the mini sector times because I think I saw that Max was yellow in the final two mini sectors
yeah, I posted Verstappen's one earlier. Which one else do you need? It basically needs a new screenshot for every driver

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Apparently Ocon and Norris also improved their S3 times under yellow. I think Alonso was the only one who properly lifted in time, told to do so b by his race engineer.

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Any long-run data from fp1 & fp2 available?

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search wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:58
nevill3 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:39
Does anybody have the mini sector times because I think I saw that Max was yellow in the final two mini sectors
yeah, I posted Verstappen's one earlier. Which one else do you need? It basically needs a new screenshot for every driver
I was interested to see Botass and Sainz final sectors, it was your earlier post that got me to thinking =D>

If they didn't go yellow like Max then they could get penalties but Max not, then the internet would implode
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nevill3 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 11:21
search wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:58
nevill3 wrote:
21 Nov 2021, 10:39
Does anybody have the mini sector times because I think I saw that Max was yellow in the final two mini sectors
yeah, I posted Verstappen's one earlier. Which one else do you need? It basically needs a new screenshot for every driver
I was interested to see Botass and Sainz final sectors, it was your earlier post that got me to thinking =D>

If they didn't go yellow like Max then they could get penalties but Max not, then the internet would implode
here they are. Both of them didn't improve either in the final two mini sectors

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Thank you
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Found an interesting throttle trace on twitter

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interesting indeed. Qatar is 2 hours ahead, so the meetings will start soon (in 10 minutes), btw