2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

[littlebigcat]

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[littlebigcat]

so a system failure by a marshal (a marshal must activate the electronic system from the marshaling post)

You are clearly being purposely obtuse.

The electronic system is irrelevant. If a driver relies on the electronic system be it visual or audible or treats that as the only one that matters then again they have failed and are liable for any penalty.

[Chene_Mostert]

so a system failure by a marshal (a marshal must activate the electronic system from the marshaling post)

You are clearly being purposely obtuse.

The electronic system is irrelevant. If a driver relies on the electronic system be it visual or audible or treats that as the only one that matters then again they have failed and are liable for any penalty.

it's not "irrelevant" it's part of the marshalling system, else why is it there, nice to have?

[Starkblood80]

so a system failure by a marshal (a marshal must activate the electronic system from the marshaling post)

No just no, you really need to just stop posting

YOU said secondary system failed (system + failed) = system failure, my boy 5 understands that.
And I don't need for you to tell me what to do, who do you think you are? you come across as a petulant child!

Now that’s ironic, considering you have multiple posters giving you broadly similar answers that you won’t accept so you just keep repeating the question.
Anyway this will be my last reply to you, enjoy your evening.

[Sieper]

Haha, calling one of the main safety systems irrelevant. Yeah, for your line of reasoning. This forum.

[Chene_Mostert]

There was no conflicting safety information for the drivers, any driver who has done a track day should know that u should watch out of any flag or any safety information on the track... even if ur team on pit wall don't inform you. Basic safety for drivers

I can recall you calling for Vettels head a couple of years back because he ignored the "electronic" system, when a marshal did not do his job....

Resorting to personal attack

The track flag has priority over the "electronic" system
really is it that difficult to understand

I don't disagree with the "rule" that the "physical" flags take precedence I say there was a system failure as the two systems was not working in tandem, Why, why did it fail? who did not do their job?

[Chene_Mostert]

No just no, you really need to just stop posting

YOU said secondary system failed (system + failed) = system failure, my boy 5 understands that.
And I don't need for you to tell me what to do, who do you think you are? you come across as a petulant child!

Now that’s ironic, considering you have multiple posters giving you broadly similar answers that you won’t accept so you just keep repeating the question.
Anyway this will be my last reply to you, enjoy your evening.

[dans79]

I can recall you calling for Vettels head a couple of years back because he ignored the "electronic" system, when a marshal did not do his job....

Resorting to personal attack

The track flag has priority over the "electronic" system
really is it that difficult to understand

I don't disagree with the "rule" that the "physical" flags take precedence I say there was a system failure as the two systems was not working in tandem, Why, why did it fail? who did not do their job?

If memory serves the electronic system is controlled by someone in race control, not a Marshall.

[Marty_Y]

Sorry for the stupid question, but I can't remember the specifics.

Since Bottas did not finish is he able to replace his engine next race without taking a penalty?

I've got a feeling that he can't because it's more than the 3 engines permitted so he would get a penalty.

[dans79]

Sorry for the stupid question, but I can't remember the specifics.

Since Bottas did not finish is he able to replace his engine next race without taking a penalty?

I've got a feeling that he can't because it's more than the 3 engines permitted so he would get a penalty.

An engine change would be a five place grid drop, he can however change the transmission freely!

[littlebigcat]

Haha, calling one of the main safety systems irrelevant. Yeah, for your line of reasoning. This forum.

In context of the status of physical and the electronic system disagreeing then yeah what the electronic one says is irrelevant according to the rules.

If the physical one was solely informed by the electronic one then you'd have less safety, not more.

[Magicsenna_41]

Wow, again after Sotschi this doesnt feel like a win somehow.
This Verstappen guy will never get punished by penalties... except Bottas could play some Bowling again.

Weird comment when Hamilton got disqualified and yet still won the race a week ago.

It is how it feels and I am sure not to be the only one here...
And last week we read many comments Like that on dutch forums and platforms

[Chene_Mostert]

Resorting to personal attack

The track flag has priority over the "electronic" system
really is it that difficult to understand

I don't disagree with the "rule" that the "physical" flags take precedence I say there was a system failure as the two systems was not working in tandem, Why, why did it fail? who did not do their job?

If memory serves the electronic system is controlled by someone in race control, not a Marshall.

according to this, it's controlled by marshals...

[Marty_Y]

Sorry for the stupid question, but I can't remember the specifics.

Since Bottas did not finish is he able to replace his engine next race without taking a penalty?

I've got a feeling that he can't because it's more than the 3 engines permitted so he would get a penalty.

An engine change would be a five place grid drop, he can however change the transmission freely!

Thanks,

[Just_a_fan]

yes, system failure, marshall did not follow work instruction. why was drs enabled? why lights not on? who failed to do their job and why?

The marshal did his job - he saw a potentially dangerous situation and waved the yellow flag to warn approaching drivers. That is what his job is in that situation - nothing else. What happens after that is not his concern - that's the race director's purview.

Marshals don't wait for race control to tell them to wave the yellow flags. Race control react to the yellow flags just as the drivers do.