It's already poisoned....
The last race of the year, the last race of an era.
Let's try to enjoy it, we will not see those cars again.
I think the changes made for this year will work in merc's favor tho. The 4-5 flip flop chicane is gone, so is the left-right-left-left sequence at the end of the back straight.west52keep64 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 00:44Last year he started on pole and just disappeared in to the distance, and that was when the Mercedes had a much bigger performance advantage.
TBH I don't the team would want to risk having him not up the front of the grid. There's no way they'll want two Red Bulls right next to Hamilton with no Bottas there.sushantasapkota1 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 11:53Maybe bottas should change his engine and help the team..
Also Constructors:El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:22TBH I don't the team would want to risk having him not up the front of the grid. There's no way they'll want two Red Bulls right next to Hamilton with no Bottas there.sushantasapkota1 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 11:53Maybe bottas should change his engine and help the team..
I was thinking more of what might happen to Hamilton at the start of the race, TBH! They won't want the top three to be Hamilton Perez Verstappen in any order. I think unless there are multiple DNFs or a mad race then the WCC is with Mercedes anyway so an engine change for Bottas won't really matter. He needs to be in the top 3 on the grid assuming Hamilton is also there.WaikeCU wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:28Also Constructors:El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:22TBH I don't the team would want to risk having him not up the front of the grid. There's no way they'll want two Red Bulls right next to Hamilton with no Bottas there.sushantasapkota1 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 11:53Maybe bottas should change his engine and help the team..
- If 1 or 2 RB dnf's, then that's the Constuctors sealed for Merc
- If RB 1-2 and 1 Merc in P3 + Other Merc DNF's. That will be level points if none of the top 3 has the fastest lap => RB wins Constructors I think
Bottas should start near the top grid. If not Mercedes will run into RedBull strategic games with early pitting Perez. Assuming Hamilton starts on pole.El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:38I was thinking more of what might happen to Hamilton at the start of the race, TBH! They won't want the top three to be Hamilton Perez Verstappen in any order. I think unless there are multiple DNFs or a mad race then the WCC is with Mercedes anyway so an engine change for Bottas won't really matter. He needs to be in the top 3 on the grid assuming Hamilton is also there.WaikeCU wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:28Also Constructors:El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:22
TBH I don't the team would want to risk having him not up the front of the grid. There's no way they'll want two Red Bulls right next to Hamilton with no Bottas there.
- If 1 or 2 RB dnf's, then that's the Constuctors sealed for Merc
- If RB 1-2 and 1 Merc in P3 + Other Merc DNF's. That will be level points if none of the top 3 has the fastest lap => RB wins Constructors I think
Bottas & Perez probably only come in to play in the first third of the race, if they can get in between Hamilton and Verstappen. Who wins the race doesn’t matter. If Bottas his engine blows half way trough doesn’t matter either (or Perez’).Magicsenna_41 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:44Bottas should start near the top grid. If not Mercedes will run into RedBull strategic games with early pitting Perez. Assuming Hamilton starts on pole.El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:38I was thinking more of what might happen to Hamilton at the start of the race, TBH! They won't want the top three to be Hamilton Perez Verstappen in any order. I think unless there are multiple DNFs or a mad race then the WCC is with Mercedes anyway so an engine change for Bottas won't really matter. He needs to be in the top 3 on the grid assuming Hamilton is also there.
But did Bottas engine survived a leakage from last weekend. So he would have only one engine in his pool with for us unknown status.
Exactly. and going on this season historically, it's more likely to be Bottas in the top three than Perez, so they'll really want to have him qualify and start there. The dream I think would be as it was in Saudi with a short clean run down to t1, on the assumption that Verstappen doesn't accidentally brake too late for t1 and collide with Hamilton. If Verstappen and Hamilton are on the front row then Hamilton should just let Verstappen go as my feeling is Verstappen is just going to go in hot to the first corner and take whatever line he wants, regardless of whether there 's a black car in his way or not.Jolle wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:49Bottas & Perez probably only come in to play in the first third of the race, if they can get in between Hamilton and Verstappen. Who wins the race doesn’t matter. If Bottas his engine blows half way trough doesn’t matter either (or Perez’).Magicsenna_41 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:44Bottas should start near the top grid. If not Mercedes will run into RedBull strategic games with early pitting Perez. Assuming Hamilton starts on pole.El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 12:38
I was thinking more of what might happen to Hamilton at the start of the race, TBH! They won't want the top three to be Hamilton Perez Verstappen in any order. I think unless there are multiple DNFs or a mad race then the WCC is with Mercedes anyway so an engine change for Bottas won't really matter. He needs to be in the top 3 on the grid assuming Hamilton is also there.
But did Bottas engine survived a leakage from last weekend. So he would have only one engine in his pool with for us unknown status.