2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 10 - 12

[Pany]

It was good. In F1 history when a team dominates, technically, economically and politically, then something happen to stop. Is normal. Is not normal mercedes dominance last for so much time and the suse did not respond before

[TwanV]

Let's talk about the real issue here as safety cars are always unfair by definition to the guy ahead. (I have sympathy/ understand the dissapointment but its a sport and not always the fastest guy wins, see Baku). Did Mercedes have a chance to pit Hamilton or was the sc announced the moment Lewis crossed the SF line?

Because if merc didn't gave a chance it would constitute an unfair advantage and I would agree with the perception of unfairness ; if Mercedes had the chance but didn't pit well, this soap opera is embarrassing.

[Phil]

I wonder what the stewards will come up with to get themselves out of this mess. Either way, i hope Massi is forced to resign. What an utter mess.

[cooken]

Lap 1 incident:
Max came from very far back, he had zero portion of his car alongside into the braking zone. Per the rules he is required to leave space for Hamilton, which he clearly did not. The FIA incompetence this season is sadly infecting many casual viewers who think Lewis did anything wrong there.

[BrunoH]

Please; you're conflating issues. The first one is easily dismissed, MV was at hospital not in hospital. not because of LH because MV and lack of facilities at Silverstone.

MV didnt win on track, politics decided one lap.
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LOL he was in hospital for checkupts and hamilton won the race by crashing into MAX!!! thats a fact!!! second yeah Hamilton should get the penalty and did not on the first lap. 2 safety car should have been out on the first VSC and it was not at the request of Mercedes. and that is not acceptable, and 3 they did no pit (it was a choice they made themselfs) as for the rest Max won On track as it should! the rest is politics like you say and mercedes should be ashamed for what they are trying to do!

[djones]

Let's talk about the real issue here as safety cars are always unfair by definition to the guy ahead. (I have sympathy/ understand the dissapointment but its a sport and not always the fastest guy wins, see Baku). Did Mercedes have a chance to pit Hamilton or was the sc announced the moment Lewis crossed the SF line?

It's somewhat missing the point.

There are rules and procedures in place for the SC. These were taken into account when teams like Mercedes were deciding what to do with the pits. Max pitted as a gamble as he had been dominated in the race and it was a last throw at the dice that ironically worked out for him (for now).

The rules were then not followed, so any decisions made around them were thrown out of the window... unfairly, incorrectly and illegally.

[popovic94]

Good thing about this, is that there is same opinion betwen 95% of fans that this is NOT OK. Who is more worthy of a champion this year can be discused, but what happened in this season and especialy last race is clearly making WWE out of Formula 1.

[cooken]

Let's talk about the real issue here as safety cars are always unfair by definition to the guy ahead. (I have sympathy/ understand the dissapointment but its a sport and not always the fastest guy wins, see Baku). Did Mercedes have a chance to pit Hamilton or was the sc announced the moment Lewis crossed the SF line?

I think Lewis hadn't reached the pit entry yet when the SC was called. I was watching his onboard and thought the pit entry light looked red, not sure though. I think what they said is they didn't have enough gap back to Max, probably because they hadn't caught up to the SC yet.

[KeiKo403]

Once Vettel passed the safety car on the who was directly behind Verstappen? If it was Carlos then fine, but if not then that’s again not very fair. Some other driver/drivers could’ve also tried to attack Verstappen on the last lap distracting him from being able to attack Hamilton. Masi said “this is motor racing”, but it’s really not when there are supposed to be more than just 2 cars racing…

[ringo]

Posters have mentioned past races where penalties were not given and so on. However this situation is not about driver behavior, or subjectivity on if a driver intended to break a rule, or went to far.
We have regulations and policies being breached completely by the regulators themselves to effect the outcome of the sport. This is beyond Max or Lewis or what they have done and gotten away with in the past.
It is important for the sport that lap 58 is invalidated. I don't think anyone even a Max fan can say what we saw today was fair and uninfluenced competition. It makes no sense for teams to build these cars, work within technical regulations, conduct their strategy towards the same regulations and rules, and then competition is corrupted. It is not tenable.

[the EDGE]

For me today was the day F1 officially declared its self as an entertainment show and ceased to be a sport

To throw the rule book out of the window and declare all they are interested in is not to finish behind the safety car, in the knowledge the lead of the championship would change hands as a result is beyond the pale

It is simply unacceptable to engineer results in professional sport. The FIA’s role is to preserve integrity, not creat controversy

[Shrieker]

There was nothing that could be rationalized by that decision there at the end tonight, which was clearly against the rules. An utterly disgraceful night for F1.

But of course, even though Mercedes are right with the legalities, the powers that be that instigated that shameful decision, won't let this result get overturned either. I personally think it shouldn't be overturned once the race is over in any case. I believe Toto will have Masi fired, and there'll be a plethora of other political ramifications for this, when all is said and done.

[dans79]

LOL he was in hospital for checkupts and hamilton won the race by crashing into MAX!!! thats a fact!!! second yeah Hamilton should get the penalty and did not on the first lap. 2 safety car should have been out on the first VSC and it was not at the request of Mercedes. and that is not acceptable, and 3 they did no pit (it was a choice they made themselfs) as for the rest Max won On track as it should! the rest is politics like you say and mercedes should be ashamed for what they are trying to do!

Rules are rules whether you like it or not. The number 1 issue with F1 right now is the number of fans who think rules only matter when it helps their driver and hinders the other!

[BrunoH]

Please; you're conflating issues. The first one is easily dismissed, MV was at hospital not in hospital. not because of LH because MV and lack of facilities at Silverstone.

MV didnt win on track, politics decided one lap.
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LOL he was in hospital for checkupts and hamilton won the race by crashing into MAX!!! thats a fact!!! second yeah Hamilton should get the penalty and did not on the first lap. 2 safety car should have been out on the first VSC and it was not at the request of Mercedes. and that is not acceptable, and 3 they did no pit (it was a choice they made themselfs) as for the rest Max won On track as it should! the rest is politics like you say and mercedes should be ashamed for what they are trying to do!

[Roo]

Please; you're conflating issues. The first one is easily dismissed, MV was at hospital not in hospital. not because of LH because MV and lack of facilities at Silverstone.

MV didnt win on track, politics decided one lap.

LOL he was in hospital for checkupts and hamilton won the race by crashing into MAX!!! thats a fact!!! second yeah Hamilton should get the penalty and did not on the first lap. 2 safety car should have been out on the first VSC and it was not at the request of Mercedes. and that is not acceptable, and 3 they did no pit (it was a choice they made themselfs) as for the rest Max won On track as it should! the rest is politics like you say and mercedes should be ashamed for what they are trying to do!
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That is AT hospital, IN hospital refers to in patient, kept overnight. MV was never an in patient, he was at hospital. Fact? what facts are you relying upon?

Whether MV won is uncertain; he didnt win on track.