2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 10 - 12

[El Scorchio]

More info here:



Aaaand here's the full press release:

https://www.fia.com/news/statement-fia- ... rt-council

“…Following the presentation of a report regarding the sequence of events that took place following the incident on Lap 53 of the Grand Prix…”

Does anyone know where to find the report?

It will be on the FIa web site I presume AFTER it's written.

FIA President proposed to the World Motor Sport Council that a detailed analysis and clarification exercise for the future with all relevant parties will now take place.

This matter will be discussed and addressed with all the teams and drivers to draw any lessons from this situation and clarity to be provided to the participants, media, and fans about the current regulations to preserve the competitive nature of our sport while ensuring the safety of the drivers and officials. It is not only Formula 1 that may benefit from this analysis, but also more generally all the other FIA circuit championships.

Hahaha! Yeah, it was a ‘misunderstanding’ of race control rather than them just making it up as they went along. Righto…

I think this investigation is them trying to avoid Mercedes taking this to court.

[west52keep64]

Two ways at looking at that
1. Agreed with merc they won't appeal if they have a full public enquiry to basically acknowledge the mistakes and make rule changes
2. Because its before merc appeal period ends, a public statement to them 'please don't appeal, we will hold the enquiry'

If 1 was true wouldn’t Merc be at the gala?

Where has it been published that they aren't attending the gala? All I have seen is a single article published by Dieter Rencken that says they didn't send any photos and/or participate in a photoshoot. For all we know, they never attend the photoshoot? I can't even find the photos from last year...

[Phil]

Does sound rather desperate.

[Tvetovnato]

Misunderstanding? Seriously? Call it for what it is instead. There is no saving it anyway. Even themselves are saying the championship is tarnished.

[Just_a_fan]

Please, please, please lock this thread!!

You may have just put up probably the best post of the thread ...

Yes. Wouldn't want evidence of malfeasance coming to the fore, would we?

[GrizzleBoy]

Toto: Micheal, what you did was wrong.

Micheal Masi: Its called racing, suck it up.

Toto: Yeeeeaaaah, let me talk to my lawyers. Okay, id like to appeal.

FIA: While we acknowledge that the rules werent fully followed, we maintain that Masi is allowed to do what he wants if he wants to make it so only one car on the grid is allowed to race by spontaneous creation and destruction of rules, he can do that. He can do whatever he wants.

Toto: Yeeeaaah, let me talk to my lawyers. I think ill escalate this to a higher authority.

FIA: Ok Ok Ok,. Please let me explain. I didnt do anything wrong, but ill call a big meeting so all teams and drivers can air their greivances about the nothing we did wrong, so we can all learn and improve on the nothing that happened, so we can prevent nothing happening in the future. Wouldnt want cause any confusiin, would we?

Toto: To be continued......

[Stu]

I’m sure when there is news we will hear it, currently we just have a bunch of opinions, many with a bit of a bias.
Truth is, Mercedes lost the race (assuming that everything else was pre-ordained), the moment THEY decided to bring LH in to cover MV’s first stop. His tyres had 10-12 laps at a decent pace left, which would have meant no time loss fighting with SP (that would have been a shame, best bit of the race!). He would have then been in a position to stop again when The safety car came out AND be ahead of MV. Under normal conditions, LH’s tyres would have been marginal by the end. Red Bull effectively duped Mercedes into a two-stop strategy.

[Stu]

Not from me, I would have liked to see Sainz win!

As soon as Mercedes followed Red Bulls lead by putting earlier than they needed to they ended up condemning LH to a race where he couldn’t get the lead that he needed; MV was ALWAYS in his pit-window.

[kenshi_blind]

why was El Scorchio latest post deleted ?

[Stu]

Maybe he deleted it? Unable to delete my response to his response.

[Roo]

Not from me, I would have liked to see Sainz win!

As soon as Mercedes followed Red Bulls lead by putting earlier than they needed to they ended up condemning LH to a race where he couldn’t get the lead that he needed; MV was ALWAYS in his pit-window.

Can I clarify you’re referring to Abu Dhabi where LH increased his lead on several occasions

[Just_a_fan]

why was El Scorchio latest post deleted ?

Yeah, you'll find that happens around here.

[Stu]

But not by enough to pit and still exit in front of MV, which is why they didn’t pit him at either the VSC or SC, they were pretty clear to him over the radio both times when he queried the lack of a call to box.

[Tom145145]

Not from me, I would have liked to see Sainz win!

As soon as Mercedes followed Red Bulls lead by putting earlier than they needed to they ended up condemning LH to a race where he couldn’t get the lead that he needed; MV was ALWAYS in his pit-window.

This has been covered, you might not agree with the responses but to bring it up again is either to annoy posters or distract. Also it’s pretty boring now, especially when there is new information from the FIA.

[cheeRS]

It it's not wrong.i do not disagree with the suggestions you've just put forward in order to have consistency. My issue is that it's disingenuous to equate what happened last Sunday to what happened in Bahrain.

And that’s exactly the whole problem there is. People rooting for Lewis are acting like the season was only Abu Dhabi long. It had a lot more races and over the season Max was just as good and had a lot more misfortune than Lewis had. He was lucky at the right time. Just like Lewis was at Imola, Hungary, Silverstone and Baku (where he didn’t capitalise on, his own fault)

Nobody (well at least not me) isn't saying that Verstappen didn't drive a great season with a lot of bad luck thrown his way, and if he'd be in the lead of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and won it, that I or others wouldn't have all the peace in the world with it and congratulated him and his team for his efforts - but that's not the discussion. Nor is it right to say Max got lucky - he didn't. The FIA/Masi did not follow their own rules and therefore disadvantaged another competitor - That's what people have a problem with. Imagine it went EXACTLY the other way around - Max leading from Hamilton through turn 1, Hamilton not able to mount any significant challenge, then suddenly this whole SC situation happens and Hamilton wins it on the last lap - I can only imagine Horner's and Marko's faces , they'd literally explode . The whole situation was just disingenuous, and reeks of incompetence at best and a downright conspiracy to let the boy-wonder win at worst.

^This

100% this. Objective and fair.