2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 10 - 12

[xaero]

That a further investigation would be required and released (or kept confidential) is really bizarre.

Yeah its strange isnt it, the entire FIA, F1 teams, Media and f1 fans are investing their time and energy for something "bizzare".
It would have been so much easier (and less bizzare) if everyone where RBR/Honda/Max fans or Lewis haters! Would have saved so much energy and time

I don't think RBR/Honda/Max fans are waiting with bated breath to see if Masi would be fired or lobbying for such. If anything, this unnecessary distraction that has become an eyesore of the past few months should simply be put to rest.

They are definitely waiting as it will give double confirmation to already tainted championship and hence, all falling in that category defending Masi with tooth and nail.

[AeroDynamic]

Yeah its strange isnt it, the entire FIA, F1 teams, Media and f1 fans are investing their time and energy for something "bizzare".
It would have been so much easier (and less bizzare) if everyone where RBR/Honda/Max fans or Lewis haters! Would have saved so much energy and time

I don't think RBR/Honda/Max fans are waiting with bated breath to see if Masi would be fired or lobbying for such. If anything, this unnecessary distraction that has become an eyesore of the past few months should simply be put to rest.

They are definitely waiting as it will give double confirmation to already tainted championship and hence, all falling in that category defending Masi with tooth and nail.

I think if they axe Masi, it would be harsh on RBR and Max because it would absolutely underline for the F1 community, that there is an admission of guilt about what Masi did in his role presiding over Abu Dhabi (though not limited to just that weekend) it would certainly pin an Asterisk to the championship with an official angle to it. That would be a blow for those fans who want F1 and its community (outside of their bubble) to recognise the result with the respect and recognition any champion should have. As I've said before, its a pity because he is a deserving Champion.

[senja]

If Masi is fired, it would not be only because of last race...

[Shrieker]

If Masi is fired, it would not be only because of last race...

Concurred. But it would be the final nail in the coffin for sure.

[Ryar]

I don't think RBR/Honda/Max fans are waiting with bated breath to see if Masi would be fired or lobbying for such. If anything, this unnecessary distraction that has become an eyesore of the past few months should simply be put to rest.

They are definitely waiting as it will give double confirmation to already tainted championship and hence, all falling in that category defending Masi with tooth and nail.

I think if they axe Masi, it would be harsh on RBR and Max because it would absolutely underline for the F1 community, that there is an admission of guilt about what Masi did in his role presiding over Abu Dhabi (though not limited to just that weekend) it would certainly pin an Asterisk to the championship with an official angle to it. That would be a blow for those fans who want F1 and its community (outside of their bubble) to recognise the result with the respect and recognition any champion should have. As I've said before, its a pity because he is a deserving Champion.

These raw emotions about putting a question mark over a championship, would die down in time either because there are going to be fresh wounds or that there are other exciting things to indulge in. There have been upteen instances where a championship ended different to how it was imagined or liked in F1 and in other sports, but none of those championships are considered any lesser. Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

[Sieper]

Mustn’t forget that most posting here are making it an echo chamber. Same happens on some parts of Facebook. You only have to look at YouTube to see the actual happiness. Max fully deserved to win. That Mercedes suddenly was totally dominant, which has a very asterisky feel to me, does not change that one bit. Max caught a lucky brake, Lewis has had many of those this season. Imola f.e. Where a timely crash saved him. Now a timely crash cost him. That Masi could have handled it differently doesn’t matter. I wish he would have. But then again, I am quite sure some other reason would be found by the same guys to say their man deserved it.

[dans79]

Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

A race director improperly applying the rules is not a racing situation.

What's really interesting is how some people completely ignore Massi's, many unacceptable screw ups prior to Abu Dhabi 2021, and even prior to the entire 2021 season!

[Ryar]

Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

A race director improperly applying the rules is not a racing situation.

What's really interesting is how some people completely ignore Massi's, many unacceptable screw ups prior to Abu Dhabi 2021, and even prior to the entire 2021 season!

I wonder what stopped Mercedes from pursuing the case if that was an improper application of rules?

[AeroDynamic]

You can call it 'luck' in Abu Dhabi if you want to, but it wasn't acceptable 'racing' luck that has any fidelity to sport ethics is it? he's lucky he had Masi as a RD who gave max two farcical results in the season. The FIA rule changes so far, underline that. Maybe Two asterisks** could be arguable if Abu Dhabi investigations suggest the same.

[dans79]

Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

A race director improperly applying the rules is not a racing situation.

What's really interesting is how some people completely ignore Massi's, many unacceptable screw ups prior to Abu Dhabi 2021, and even prior to the entire 2021 season!

I wonder what stopped Mercedes from pursuing the case if that was an improper application of rules?

Probably because just like in the past with other teams, the FIA did closed door deals to limit how foolish they looked!

[AeroDynamic]

A race director improperly applying the rules is not a racing situation.

What's really interesting is how some people completely ignore Massi's, many unacceptable screw ups prior to Abu Dhabi 2021, and even prior to the entire 2021 season!

I wonder what stopped Mercedes from pursuing the case if that was an improper application of rules?

Probably because just like in the past with other teams, the FIA did closed door deals to limit how foolish they looked!

More likely when the FIA tell you themselves that you may succeed in voiding Abu Dhabi as an entire race result instead of voiding a lap.. and it still means the other driver remains champion? the incentive drops. Besides, you need to work with the FIA and burning bridges should be a last resort.

[sosic2121]

I think Lewis' fans should actually be happy Lewis didn't won this championship after everything that happened this season. It would taint his career.

This way everyone will forget what he has done(Silverstone and some other races) because Massi didn't allow all cars to overtake.

[NathanOlder]

They are definitely waiting as it will give double confirmation to already tainted championship and hence, all falling in that category defending Masi with tooth and nail.

I think if they axe Masi, it would be harsh on RBR and Max because it would absolutely underline for the F1 community, that there is an admission of guilt about what Masi did in his role presiding over Abu Dhabi (though not limited to just that weekend) it would certainly pin an Asterisk to the championship with an official angle to it. That would be a blow for those fans who want F1 and its community (outside of their bubble) to recognise the result with the respect and recognition any champion should have. As I've said before, its a pity because he is a deserving Champion.

These raw emotions about putting a question mark over a championship, would die down in time either because there are going to be fresh wounds or that there are other exciting things to indulge in. There have been upteen instances where a championship ended different to how it was imagined or liked in F1 and in other sports, but none of those championships are considered any lesser. Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

89 and 94 have never been forgotten, same for 76. Many say the wrong wrong man won the championship in those years, and its never forgotten. I dont seen this being any different.

[NathanOlder]

I think Lewis' fans should actually be happy Lewis didn't won this championship after everything that happened this season. It would taint his career.

This way everyone will forget what he has done(Silverstone and some other races) because Massi didn't allow all cars to overtake.

Well he was punished for Silverstone, if he wasn't punished at all, I would see your point. what else was so bad that he did ?

[Just_a_fan]

These raw emotions about putting a question mark over a championship, would die down in time either because there are going to be fresh wounds or that there are other exciting things to indulge in. There have been upteen instances where a championship ended different to how it was imagined or liked in F1 and in other sports, but none of those championships are considered any lesser. Only for lesser fans that can't accept a racing situation, Masi's inclusion/exclusion would be a matter of interest.

"Lesser fans", eh? It's come down to insulting people now?

And for your information, those that have long memories and have been watching F1 for a long time well remember the contentious outcomes; they still have an * by them in many minds for various reasons.