McLaren MCL36

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I wonder where the mirror support will end up ? On top off side pod or down the side of the side pod ??

Depends on the rules I guess... Any ideas ??

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f1rules wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 00:34
found this im not even sure, instagram story? seem to be the real fw
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLwHXcrXsAI ... me=900x900
I think this is in the McLaren Unboxed that released yesterday. I tried to spot something juicy but they didn't show anything really different.

This front view may be only real scoop. There is also a side view where the car appears to have a slight rake.

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mclaren111 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 09:51
https://i.iscr.ru/2022/02/16/MCL36-P2.png


I wonder where the mirror support will end up ? On top off side pod or down the side of the side pod ??

Depends on the rules I guess... Any ideas ??
Only if they want to cast a vortex off it but it appears they are trying hard to keep the airflow clean on top of the sidepod. I think that's why the mirror is mounted in line with the halo and remains quite high off the sidepod surface.

EDIT just took another look and it looks like they are also using it as a flow conditioner for cleaning up the side pod air flow. Highly doubt it will move.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 10:40
f1rules wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 00:34
found this im not even sure, instagram story? seem to be the real fw
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLwHXcrXsAI ... me=900x900
I think this is in the McLaren Unboxed that released yesterday. I tried to spot something juicy but they didn't show anything really different.

This front view may be only real scoop. There is also a side view where the car appears to have a slight rake.
There’s a nice view of the sidepods at 11:51, I’d post a pic if I wasn’t so technically challenged, nothing new to see but a nice new angle to anything else

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the EDGE wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 14:26
FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 10:40
f1rules wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 00:34
found this im not even sure, instagram story? seem to be the real fw
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLwHXcrXsAI ... me=900x900
I think this is in the McLaren Unboxed that released yesterday. I tried to spot something juicy but they didn't show anything really different.

This front view may be only real scoop. There is also a side view where the car appears to have a slight rake.
There’s a nice view of the sidepods at 11:51, I’d post a pic if I wasn’t so technically challenged, nothing new to see but a nice new angle to anything else
Apologies for Youtube lines - not sure how I can remove them when paused.

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It's definitely quite tight on the rear when seen from those angles.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 14:52

Apologies for Youtube lines - not sure how I can remove them when paused.

https://i.imgur.com/6BJFta2.png

https://i.imgur.com/2arIwwB.png

https://i.imgur.com/3j71cuS.png

https://i.imgur.com/01Gwp5R.png

No apologies necessary... She looks a little more beautiful as every other car is released :lol:

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Be interesting to see if anyone else does pull front, push rear now Ferrari have shown they haven’t, specifically RBR and Merc; it’ll be a bold choice if McLaren is the only one.

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Mitch2.0 wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:30
Be interesting to see if anyone else does pull front, push rear now Ferrari have shown they haven’t, specifically RBR and Merc; it’ll be a bold choice if McLaren is the only one.
Aston has the Merc rear suspension, so it will be pullrod rear. AlphaTauri uses the RBR rear suspension and showed a pullrod as well, but who knows if that render is true to reality.

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Good point regarding Aston and the rear end.

As for Alpha, I’m sure they’ll hide what RBR ask them to, so let’s see.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 23:15
f1rules wrote:
16 Feb 2022, 22:55
from the unboxed video, i know its difficult to make to much from them, but there is actually a decent amount of rake if you dont get fooled by the cover hanging over the side floor. Would fit their outwash fw design and front sidepod design, so the flow they "give up" on with smaller diffuser inlets they try and claw back with rake and maybe getting a stronger frontend with the center spoon shape and those millimeters closer to the ground

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLvv8qPXoAg ... name=large
It probably doesn’t have fuel in it plus a number of things. I wouldn’t read into it much.
Given that the suspension has to deal with, what 2-tonnes of downforce (not sure of what current cars are reaching), then surely 100Kg of fuel isn't going to make much difference to squat? Even if the engine isn't in and there's no fuel, then the weight isn't meaningful.

I'm happy to be told I'm missing something here around how the suspension works (e.g. it's not a linear spring rate). However, at first glance it looks like there is a bit of rake on the car, and that's somewhat understandable if McLaren are still leveraging 2021 techniques around maximising outwash, sealing the floor, etc.

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There aren't many details in the article. This stands out.
A gearbox from last year, in terms of its geometry and construction, just wouldn’t match a ’22 car, and so we’ve had to redesign the casing to be much more sympathetic to aerodynamics than it has been in the past. What’s also new for ’22 is that this gearbox will be homologated. As a cost-saving measure, you’ll be stuck with the fundamental design of your gearbox for five years – so there’s been a lot of futureproofing put into the concept as well.
Hopefully team got it right.

Btw imagine if cars were not postponed. McLaren would enter the season with a new engine, new suspensions both front and back and new tires.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 21:17
There aren't many details in the article. This stands out.
A gearbox from last year, in terms of its geometry and construction, just wouldn’t match a ’22 car, and so we’ve had to redesign the casing to be much more sympathetic to aerodynamics than it has been in the past. What’s also new for ’22 is that this gearbox will be homologated. As a cost-saving measure, you’ll be stuck with the fundamental design of your gearbox for five years – so there’s been a lot of futureproofing put into the concept as well.
Hopefully team got it right.

Btw imagine if cars were not postponed. McLaren would enter the season with a new engine, new suspensions both front and back and new tires.
Maybe, although I have a feeling that the new suspension is thanks to the postponement… In 2020 with no work allowed on Aero for the new regulations, the team(s) focused on the mechanical / chassis portion of the car, this is what may have brought up the new layout (with a lot of time invested in understanding the change)… With the cars coming in sooner, the allocation of resources would have gone into the new engine, new aero, new chassis… Maybe not enough time to explore the new concept.