2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Dec 10 - 12

[PlatinumZealot]

I reacted on Platinums and others relief that Masi got the boot. Like I said, it solves nothing and they have nobody that would have doen a better job.

No, I read the article on motorsport. It doesn't tell you in any way how the "Abu Dhabi-situation" will be avoided. It states the the whole system will be changed but I did not really find how it will work in the future.

2 alternating RD's, extra help from officials and no direct contact between the teams and RD.
so i would say the FIA's strategy to avoid a repeat is to lessen the pressure on the RD and remove team influence

I dont really understand how they are going to resolve the "lack of consistency of decisions" by alternating the role between two different people rather than just one.

McDonald's, Burger king, Starbucks and pretty much any other major fast food chain.

The food prepared in those places are made by thousands of different people, in hundreds of different franchises each day and we can all say that their respective offerings taste consitent no matter which location we go to.
It's because these companies have standard procedures that every location must follow, and on top of that they are regularly audited.

It is easy for FIA to achieve consistency. That's not even a challenge for them.

[AeroDynamic]

"The only ones who's still talking about it, is you guys"

Christian Horner

this will age well

[mrluke]

It is easy for FIA to achieve consistency. That's not even a challenge for them.

Wow. I dont know why we are even having this conversation then as there obviously isn't an issue.

[nimoraca]

This move will, unfortunately, do nothing for consistency because the main issue regarding consistency is with stewarding not race management. If you want consistent race management, just follow the written rules (instead of inventing new rules on the penultimate lap of the championship in cooperation with another team on the grid). We will still have different stewards every race deciding outcomes of races without any clear rules of racing being put in place (what is allowed and what not in wheel to wheel combat). Coupled with the stupid mantra "let them race" (at any cost) we are bound to end up in the same s**t. The only way we do not end up in the same situation is if the championship is not that close.

[PlatinumZealot]

It is easy for FIA to achieve consistency. That's not even a challenge for them.

Wow. I dont know why we are even having this conversation then as there obviously isn't an issue.

That the ruling body did not act consistently despite having all the resources to do so, does not mean there was not an issue. There was an issue because they didn't act consistently despite having said resources to easily do so. It just so happens that it required the mother of all cock-ups for them to turn their attention to fixing it.

[GrizzleBoy]

Wheatley: Hey Mike. I've heard there's this new rule where I can ask you to move specific cars around the track to position my driver for a WDC win. Its not in the regs yet it just came out last night. Come on bud, give us a motor race!

Micheal Masi: Understood.

Horner: Why are we not getting these cars out of the way? We only need one lap.

Micheal Masi: Give me a minute.

*B.S ensues*

Toto: Micheal, what you did was wrong.

Micheal Masi: It's called a *checks Wheatleys notes re:new rules* a motor race, Toto.

Toto: I'll appeal, since this bi's neither precedent nor in the rules and therefore impossible for us to have strategies for.

FIA: Actually Toto, I think you'll find that this rule here says Masi is allowed to make up rules if he feels like it. #FIAstandswithMasi

Toto: -_-

The rest of the F1 community/pundits/drivers: -_-

Toto: See you in court mate.

FIA: Woooaaaaab there. Okokok look, we'll have some "clarification" talks later, okay? You guys, the fans, the pundits etc just don't understand.

Micheal Masi: Phew, thanks guys I'm so glad you stuck by me like tha-

FIA: *scrubs Micheals name from FIA officials roster*, sorry, whatever you saying?

Micheal Masi: What are you doing? I thought you said I did nothing wrong and my judgement on the day was fine?

FIA: Of course we did! You think we'd just straight up admit one of our employees gifted a driver who was clearly losing this race at every stage a WDC because the drivers team asked him to??

Micheal Masi: Oh. So I guess I'm fired .

FIA: No Mikey! Don't be silly! We'd never do something so drastic.

Micheal Masi:

FIA: No, instead we'll wait for all the fairweather Max fans to go back to not caring about F1 again and bury the news of your removal from your post beneath the reveal of a radical 2022 Ferrari car launch.

Masi: :,(

Rest of F1 community: FINALLY!

[siskue2005]

Wheatley: Hey Mike. I've heard there's this new rule where I can ask you to move specific cars around the track to position my driver for a WDC win. Its not in the regs yet it just came out last night. Come on bud, give us a motor race!

Micheal Masi: Understood.

Horner: Why are we not getting these cars out of the way? We only need one lap.

Micheal Masi: Give me a minute.

*B.S ensues*

Toto: Micheal, what you did was wrong.

Micheal Masi: It's called a *checks Wheatleys notes re:new rules* a motor race, Toto.

Toto: I'll appeal, since this bi's neither precedent nor in the rules and therefore impossible for us to have strategies for.

FIA: Actually Toto, I think you'll find that this rule here says Masi is allowed to make up rules if he feels like it. #FIAstandswithMasi

Toto: -_-

The rest of the F1 community/pundits/drivers: -_-

Toto: See you in court mate.

FIA: Woooaaaaab there. Okokok look, we'll have some "clarification" talks later, okay? You guys, the fans, the pundits etc just don't understand.

Micheal Masi: Phew, thanks guys I'm so glad you stuck by me like tha-

FIA: *scrubs Micheals name from FIA officials roster*, sorry, whatever you saying?

Micheal Masi: What are you doing? I thought you said I did nothing wrong and my judgement on the day was fine?

FIA: Of course we did! You think we'd just straight up admit one of our employees gifted a driver who was clearly losing this race at every stage a WDC because the drivers team asked him to??

Micheal Masi: Oh. So I guess I'm fired .

FIA: No Mikey! Don't be silly! We'd never do something so drastic.

Micheal Masi:

FIA: No, instead we'll wait for all the fairweather Max fans to go back to not caring about F1 again and bury the news of your removal from your post beneath the reveal of a radical 2022 Ferrari car launch.

Masi: :,(

Rest of F1 community: FINALLY!

I have to agree

[GrizzleBoy]

Wheatley: Hey Mike. I've heard there's this new rule where I can ask you to move specific cars around the track to position my driver for a WDC win. Its not in the regs yet it just came out last night. Come on bud, give us a motor race!

Micheal Masi: Understood.

Horner: Why are we not getting these cars out of the way? We only need one lap.

Micheal Masi: Give me a minute.

*B.S ensues*

Toto: Micheal, what you did was wrong.

Micheal Masi: It's called a *checks Wheatleys notes re:new rules* a motor race, Toto.

Toto: I'll appeal, since this bi's neither precedent nor in the rules and therefore impossible for us to have strategies for.

FIA: Actually Toto, I think you'll find that this rule here says Masi is allowed to make up rules if he feels like it. #FIAstandswithMasi

Toto: -_-

The rest of the F1 community/pundits/drivers: -_-

Toto: See you in court mate.

FIA: Woooaaaaab there. Okokok look, we'll have some "clarification" talks later, okay? You guys, the fans, the pundits etc just don't understand.

Micheal Masi: Phew, thanks guys I'm so glad you stuck by me like tha-

FIA: *scrubs Micheals name from FIA officials roster*, sorry, whatever you saying?

Micheal Masi: What are you doing? I thought you said I did nothing wrong and my judgement on the day was fine?

FIA: Of course we did! You think we'd just straight up admit one of our employees gifted a driver who was clearly losing this race at every stage a WDC because the drivers team asked him to??

Micheal Masi: Oh. So I guess I'm fired .

FIA: No Mikey! Don't be silly! We'd never do something so drastic.

Micheal Masi:

FIA: No, instead we'll wait for all the fairweather Max fans to go back to not caring about F1 again and bury the news of your removal from your post beneath the reveal of a radical 2022 Ferrari car launch.

Masi: :,(

Rest of F1 community: FINALLY!

Max Verstappen- 2021 Formula 1 World Drivers Champion. Try changing that.

Okay?

The fact that a person made a post chronicling the "mistakes" Masi made in this race that gave Max his championship and how the FIA flip flopped and contradicted themselves made you feel the need to post what you did, only shows your own feelings of insecurity about it.

You'll deny the existence of the asterisk, while at the same time you're feeling like you need to defend his championship out of nowhere just because someone is criticising Masi and the FIA.

[KeiKo403]

The reason Hamilton was even in the title fight at Abu Dhabi was because he took Verstappen out in UK, Bottas took Verstappen out in Hungary and Pirelli at Baku.

But surely Verstappen was only still in the fight too because he stopped Lewis outscoring him at Monza along with the FIA not penalizing him in Brazil for the very poor T4 defending and then also Masi allowing him to move places during a red flag instead of taking a real penalty and then later that race the blatant brake checking which also went unpunished.

I'm willing to accept some give and take for the both of them over the course of the season up until Abu Dhabi.

Masi broke the rules handing the win and the Championship to Max. That's why some [maybe most] see an * next to the '21 WDC.

[AeroDynamic]

The reason Verstappen was not comfortably winning the title in Abu Dhabi, is cause he misjudged when to be aggressive in Silverstone and is apparently too hard-headed to realise that yielding is in your interest sometimes.

He also must learn that if he is going to dish it out, he must be able to take it. He does not yield on the inside even if he is behind. he drove this way in Turn 6 Silverstone and set a precedent up to Silverstone that its okay to torpedo your way up the inside if you are anywhere alongside.

Hamilton was more along Side Verstappen than Verstappen was in Brooklands, he won the corner on the inside. Why should he yield? Why should he take the blame if a driver on the outside turns inward toward you, trying to dictate a corner that is no longer yours?

[Ryar]

A bit like you have in the past regarding Mercedes not pitting Hamilton under the safety car, right.

Isn't why he lost the race? Unless you want to look the other way for a convenient scapegoat.

Well, seeing as the vast majority of people can now accept that Masi’s rule breaking handed max the win it’s clear you’re being
blind to the fact he couldn’t pit without losing track position
To suit your narrative that it was Mercedes fault that Hamilton lost and not Masi’s.

I never said he wouldn't have lost track position, but Mercedes were blind for the fact that, if the racing started, Lewis was a sitting duck. They had all the time in the world prior to incident to think about a plausible situation, but they chose to gamble on race not starting, while Martin Brundle right away said they may have one or two lap dash. If Masi would have let all the cars to unlap on lap 56 when the track was clear, instead of waiting until 57, what would you have blamed?

[senja]

Vast majority?
5 of you wrote most of comments in this thread. You are very minor in this forum, same as in global F1 fanbase...

[Ryar]

Vast majority?
5 of you wrote most of comments in this thread. You are very minor in this forum, same as in global F1 fanbase...

Good point!

[AeroDynamic]

If Masi would have let all the cars to unlap on lap 56 when the track was clear, instead of waiting until 57, what would you have blamed?

Can you elaborate in more detail please? what are you citing to say as a fan outside of race control, that the track was cleared on lap 56? is this just based on a car onboard on that lap? Do drivers in their cars have full view of what's going on behind the scenes in race control that an onboard can tell?

For example, If everything is based on one small piece of the picture, i.e. the onboard of a car passing the scene, isn't an assumption tucked in there that Marshalls did not return to the track to check anything or clear anything else? or that some other part of the process of making the track clear, was not complete?

I Stil find this a mystery, has this been cleared up? it says the track was 'clear' after the safety car as pulled in.


Either way, its not about blaming someone. Its about the fact that the regs were not followed and this was decisive in a championship outcome in a formula 1 Grand Prix event. That should not happen. If the rules were followed and There was legitimately laps left of racing, then we can talk about Mercedes being caught out with their choice. But as things stand, their decision was the winning strategy based on Masi sticking to the rules.

[morefirejules08]

Vast majority?
5 of you wrote most of comments in this thread. You are very minor in this forum, same as in global F1 fanbase...

I suggest you read further afield that this forum post as for the global F1 fan base and the public in general, I think you’ll find the majority agree masi broke the rules in a way that favoured max.