McLaren MCL36

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f1rules wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 10:04
i know, question is how much is pretty much :-) cause looking at the side impact structure mclaren is heavily loaded in front with both radiator and electronics, we wil see, just noticing the differences
kalinka wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 09:35
f1rules wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 08:23
compared to the rb18, the difference in weight distribution must be significant
And im not trying to suggest one is better
Weight distribution is pretty much fixed in the rules IMO.

4.2 Mass distribution
With the car resting on a horizontal plane the mass measured at the front and rear axles must
not be less than the mass specified in Article 4.1 factored by 0.440 and 0.540 respectively at
all times during the qualifying practice session. Rounding will be to nearest 0.5kg.

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Albert Fabrega
The panels over the McLaren power unit. See the different flow chanels inside the sidepod.
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101FlyingDutchman
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What’s the pointy finger trying to convey?

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Marc.W
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Internal ducting shroud, never seen something like that before

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It is very interesting to see that McLaren put the upper crash structure behind the radiators and the lower in front of them. RedBull in contrast got the whole radiator setup behind the two side impact crash pylons. Very different approach when it comes to radiator positioning.

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The Race:
The Red Bull RB18 proves there is still some freedom in this area, with a three-part vane mounted on the forward part of the brake ducts. McLaren has taken a similar approach with a two-part version, as has Ferrari with a single-element component.
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Marc.W
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I thought these were a spec part?

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AeroDynamic wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 10:36
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbeP6nWYAg ... name=large
Albert Fabrega
The panels over the McLaren power unit. See the different flow chanels inside the sidepod.
If I am not mistaken, there seems to be some room in the sidepods to be shrinked further like Mercedes.

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hakan439 wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 11:22
AeroDynamic wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 10:36
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMbeP6nWYAg ... name=large
Albert Fabrega
The panels over the McLaren power unit. See the different flow chanels inside the sidepod.
If I am not mistaken, there seems to be some room in the sidepods to be shrinked further like Mercedes.
I think teams are using sidepods as aero devices now. With bargeboards gone, things have become difficult to manage.

Perhaps it is better to purposefully make the sidepods bigger than you can to use them to manipulate airflow.

101FlyingDutchman
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If anything there might be room to incorporate ducting to blow the beam wing/seal diffuser

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Such a clean car. You get the feeling it’s very much designed as a solid base platform from which they can bolt on performance or move into any direction they want

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west52keep64
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mclaren111 wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 11:11
The Race:
The Red Bull RB18 proves there is still some freedom in this area, with a three-part vane mounted on the forward part of the brake ducts. McLaren has taken a similar approach with a two-part version, as has Ferrari with a single-element component.
https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... 36x864.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... 36x864.jpg
Those are spec parts. I would expect nothing less from The Race, they quite often get this kind of thing wrong. The only difference is the angle of the photo which is hiding part of the deflector on the McLaren. They are identical.

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west52keep64 wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 12:12
mclaren111 wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 11:11
The Race:
The Red Bull RB18 proves there is still some freedom in this area, with a three-part vane mounted on the forward part of the brake ducts. McLaren has taken a similar approach with a two-part version, as has Ferrari with a single-element component.
https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... 36x864.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/the-race ... 36x864.jpg
Those are spec parts. I would expect nothing less from The Race, they quite often get this kind of thing wrong. The only difference is the angle of the photo which is hiding part of the deflector on the McLaren. They are identical.
I dont know about the front Mudguard/deflector area but the lower rear caketin furniture is a spec part but the exclusion box ends with some space free and teams have chopped and hacked shapes into it as they see fit, I wonder if the same applies here.

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DragonSGC wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 12:19
I dont know about the front Mudguard/deflector area but the lower rear caketin furniture is a spec part but the exclusion box ends with some space free and teams have chopped and hacked shapes into it as they see fit, I wonder if the same applies here.
Yes the rear part is slightly different, and teams are able to add pieces on. The front I'm sure is a fully spec part though. I'm pretty sure the Ferrari has the same 3 element pieces as the McLaren & Red Bull, despite what The Race is saying. Annoyingly it's not something we are getting great images of, so it's proving difficult to make a comparison!