Aston Martin AMR22

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vas_04614 wrote:
26 Feb 2022, 18:28
Vettel:
“I can’t say at the minute we are seeing the peak but it is fun, the challenge is fun."

“There is the belief that one day we will reach the peak, hopefully just before the season."

Going by his comments looks to be issues like porpoising etc are not allowing them to run car to its full potential and is hoping for a fix in Bahrain before season starts to extract maximum out of the car.
Aston Martin is actually the most different in the paddock as they have gone full effort on high and medium downforce. Their front wing is the highest, their 3d floor has the deepest tunnel with a almost side skirt like sepration (thus they can raise the ride highet at almost no cost compared to other teams).
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They are gonna be fast in a straight line like riduclously fast(like maybe 10kmph diffrence from the second fastest) and fast high, medium downforce tracks(that's 12-22 tracks) However they just need to figure out low speed conrners and accleration and direction change as front ing is more dialled towards providing mid downforce than front downforce so lot's of understeer. Aston is the biggest underdog here as they design concept is the best,but most teams didn't pursueit due to it's comprmises in low speed corners and raidator packaging difficulities. Expect a even higher front wing in bahrain and a slighlty slimmer side pods.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 11:28
Aston is the biggest underdog here as they design concept is the best,but most teams didn't pursueit due to it's comprmises in low speed corners and raidator packaging difficulities. Expect a even higher front wing in bahrain and a slighlty slimmer side pods.
There will be changes to the car from the learning they've done at Barcelona. I hope the correlation with simulation and the tunnel are correct. It is a different concept direction to the rest of the field which either bodes well or suggests they've gone the wrong way. It is too early to say if it is the best concept.

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How is the Aston a different design concept than the Alfa?

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 11:28
vas_04614 wrote:
26 Feb 2022, 18:28
Vettel:
“I can’t say at the minute we are seeing the peak but it is fun, the challenge is fun."

“There is the belief that one day we will reach the peak, hopefully just before the season."

Going by his comments looks to be issues like porpoising etc are not allowing them to run car to its full potential and is hoping for a fix in Bahrain before season starts to extract maximum out of the car.
Aston Martin is actually the most different in the paddock as they have gone full effort on high and medium downforce. Their front wing is the highest, their 3d floor has the deepest tunnel with a almost side skirt like sepration (thus they can raise the ride highet at almost no cost compared to other teams).
https://i.imgur.com/zwVdOBZ.jpg
They are gonna be fast in a straight line like riduclously fast(like maybe 10kmph diffrence from the second fastest) and fast high, medium downforce tracks(that's 12-22 tracks) However they just need to figure out low speed conrners and accleration and direction change as front ing is more dialled towards providing mid downforce than front downforce so lot's of understeer. Aston is the biggest underdog here as they design concept is the best,but most teams didn't pursueit due to it's comprmises in low speed corners and raidator packaging difficulities. Expect a even higher front wing in bahrain and a slighlty slimmer side pods.
There will be a point in the season where the optimum design concept to ride these new set of rules will imerge.
AM took a calculated risk by going in a different design direction than others by building a car to perform strongly on the specific types of circuits.
Team going to ditch this concept at some point in the season & take a popular route with their high-profile joining in the technical department.

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NAPI10 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 19:25
Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 11:28
vas_04614 wrote:
26 Feb 2022, 18:28
Vettel:



Going by his comments looks to be issues like porpoising etc are not allowing them to run car to its full potential and is hoping for a fix in Bahrain before season starts to extract maximum out of the car.
Aston Martin is actually the most different in the paddock as they have gone full effort on high and medium downforce. Their front wing is the highest, their 3d floor has the deepest tunnel with a almost side skirt like sepration (thus they can raise the ride highet at almost no cost compared to other teams).
https://i.imgur.com/zwVdOBZ.jpg
They are gonna be fast in a straight line like riduclously fast(like maybe 10kmph diffrence from the second fastest) and fast high, medium downforce tracks(that's 12-22 tracks) However they just need to figure out low speed conrners and accleration and direction change as front ing is more dialled towards providing mid downforce than front downforce so lot's of understeer. Aston is the biggest underdog here as they design concept is the best,but most teams didn't pursueit due to it's comprmises in low speed corners and raidator packaging difficulities. Expect a even higher front wing in bahrain and a slighlty slimmer side pods.
There will be a point in the season where the optimum design concept to ride these new set of rules will imerge.
AM took a calculated risk by going in a different design direction than others by building a car to perform strongly on the specific types of circuits.
Team going to ditch this concept at some point in the season & take a popular route with their high-profile joining in the technical department.
Just so You know Williams did this in 2014 and it worked wonders. They just then went completly the wrong way after in 2015 by trying to add more front downforce, instead of foccusing on the car's strength, high speed conrners, and medium speed corners. Thier tehcnical team was ---. Hope Aston don't make the same mistake.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 08:03
NAPI10 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 19:25
Ashwinv16 wrote:
02 Mar 2022, 11:28


Aston Martin is actually the most different in the paddock as they have gone full effort on high and medium downforce. Their front wing is the highest, their 3d floor has the deepest tunnel with a almost side skirt like sepration (thus they can raise the ride highet at almost no cost compared to other teams).
https://i.imgur.com/zwVdOBZ.jpg
They are gonna be fast in a straight line like riduclously fast(like maybe 10kmph diffrence from the second fastest) and fast high, medium downforce tracks(that's 12-22 tracks) However they just need to figure out low speed conrners and accleration and direction change as front ing is more dialled towards providing mid downforce than front downforce so lot's of understeer. Aston is the biggest underdog here as they design concept is the best,but most teams didn't pursueit due to it's comprmises in low speed corners and raidator packaging difficulities. Expect a even higher front wing in bahrain and a slighlty slimmer side pods.
There will be a point in the season where the optimum design concept to ride these new set of rules will imerge.
AM took a calculated risk by going in a different design direction than others by building a car to perform strongly on the specific types of circuits.
Team going to ditch this concept at some point in the season & take a popular route with their high-profile joining in the technical department.
Just so You know Williams did this in 2014 and it worked wonders. They just then went completly the wrong way after in 2015 by trying to add more front downforce, instead of foccusing on the car's strength, high speed conrners, and medium speed corners. Thier tehcnical team was ---. Hope Aston don't make the same mistake.
Agree...It will be interesting to see the evolution of this concept(which is ignored by others or there is a surprise in store at Baharain)

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Look at the mirrors support

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I assume every team will adopt the outwashing mirror mount at some point. Interestingly AM has chosen not to use the other mount as a horizontal vane above the sidepod.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 21:12
I assume every team will adopt the outwashing mirror mount at some point. Interestingly AM has chosen not to use the other mount as a horizontal vane above the sidepod.
It's there. In front of the sidepod.
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I think AM found something with the big sidepods like a "double floor" or something because they're really investing in it like taking out one of those classic mirror supports is like that they want the cleanest possible air flow for that area

what do you think?

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Did they use their 2nd 100km filming day already as it looks like this was properly coming out the garage for a run?

Other than the mirrors, the front and rear wings look completely black. Maybe weight saving without the green paint?

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New floor for the AMR22

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As others on this thread has suggested, there's a lot of empty space in there if they did want to slim the side pods down!!
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