2022 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Gardens, May 06 - 08

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Dr. Acula wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:12
Well, race was quite boring for a long time though. Really, this track doesn't allow for good racing imho.
Not least because of the tyre marbles which we haven't seen for a very long time and already generally low grip off line.

Also, wow Max is panting away long after getting out of the car. These cars are hard to drive for the guys on many levels, even when youre easily fastest.

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JordanMugen wrote:
08 May 2022, 22:49
Albon P11, does the Williams ace have fresh tyres on?
Albon doesn't need fresh tyres to take the Williams to a point! :D

Also: simply lovely from the champ, and MV puts #1 in P1! :) A routine victory with not quite enough pace from the Ferrari to attack. Great job by Red Bull Racing and HRC. =D>
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Shouldnt Carlos, Charles and Max have his race suit on and done up?

"x Competitors are reminded of Article 63.2 of the Sporting Regulations – “For the duration of the Post
Race Interviews and Podium Ceremony Procedure, the Drivers finishing in race in positions 1, 2, 3
must remain attired only in their Driving Suits, 'done up' to the neck, not opened to the waist.”
x Please note that drivers will be called immediately for their post-race interviews as soon as
they get out of their cars – there will not be any cool-down facilities in the Parc Fermé. The
post-race interviews will take place in the designated area, and the interviewer will be selected by
the Commercial Rights Holder. "
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morefirejules08 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:14
Tvetovnato wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:11
Going back to Brazil last year I remember Horner and Marko whining about the Merc being unracable with a few kph top speed advantage. Wonder what they call this.
Ironic that last season CH was crying the only reason Hamilton won was because Mercedes was faster in a straight line. Seems RB we’re taking notes all along
Or that Lewis only won because he had the best car….

I like Max, but let’s be realistic here, Max is winning because he also has the best car now. Ferrari just doesn’t have the stonk down the straight atm and seems to struggle with a graining phase
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F1NAC wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:10
I hope ferrari brings something good. They are on slight decline already... 2,3 tenths behind RB in the race.

Probably missed chance with not running new wing
Yeah, seems really weird; more top speed on a circuit like this seemed like a no brainer - and seemed to cost Charles at the end - but I’m sure there’s a reason and obviously swings and roundabouts.

Either way, Ferrari need to bring an upgrade now. They don’t have the fastest race car any more and need to react at this point. Hopefully they’ve spent this time productively and it’ll be worth the wait.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:16
morefirejules08 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:14
Tvetovnato wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:11
Going back to Brazil last year I remember Horner and Marko whining about the Merc being unracable with a few kph top speed advantage. Wonder what they call this.
Ironic that last season CH was crying the only reason Hamilton won was because Mercedes was faster in a straight line. Seems RB we’re taking notes all along
Or that Lewis only won because he had the best car….

I like Max, but let’s be realistic here, Max is winning because he also has the best car now. Ferrari just doesn’t have the stonk down the straight atm and seems to struggle with a graining phase
It reminded me to last year as well. Seems they've taken over speed advantage to a higher level. That FER was nowhere with DRS vs RB without DRS.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:16
I like Max, but let’s be realistic here, Max is winning because he also has the best car now.
Well, duh. As Frank Dernie says the faster of the two drivers in the best car usually wins. F1 is all about building the best car. :)

Perez is probably not the fastest second driver available for Red Bull, that would be Alonso probably and a team should always take the two fastest drivers they can find, but Perez will do for now. :)

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f1316 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:16
F1NAC wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:10
I hope ferrari brings something good. They are on slight decline already... 2,3 tenths behind RB in the race.

Probably missed chance with not running new wing
Yeah, seems really weird; more top speed on a circuit like this seemed like a no brainer - and seemed to cost Charles at the end - but I’m sure there’s a reason and obviously swings and roundabouts.

Either way, Ferrari need to bring an upgrade now. They don’t have the fastest race car any more and need to react at this point. Hopefully they’ve spent this time productively and it’ll be worth the wait.
I don't think it's the top speed that was the issue. Ferrari was faster in S1 during key moments, and yeah RedBull faster on straights, but the problem was how much better grip Verstappen had in T11-16. During the last lap, when they took some video from above you could easily see how much better Verstappen was turning into T16 compared to Leclerc who was fairly understeery. And in general through that section Verstappen would gain 0.5s sometimes, just better mechanical grip overall.

And I think Ferrari went with very hard suspension for porpoising which made their mechanical grip worse.

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JordanMugen wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:18
Hoffman900 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:16
I like Max, but let’s be realistic here, Max is winning because he also has the best car now.
Well, duh. As Frank Dernie says the faster of the two drivers in the best car usually wins. F1 is all about building the best car. :)
Well that’s a change of tune from your posts from the last several years :lol:

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f1316 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:16
F1NAC wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:10
I hope ferrari brings something good. They are on slight decline already... 2,3 tenths behind RB in the race.

Probably missed chance with not running new wing
Yeah, seems really weird; more top speed on a circuit like this seemed like a no brainer - and seemed to cost Charles at the end - but I’m sure there’s a reason and obviously swings and roundabouts.

Either way, Ferrari need to bring an upgrade now. They don’t have the fastest race car any more and need to react at this point. Hopefully they’ve spent this time productively and it’ll be worth the wait.
Well they did just update their power units with updated ers for all Ferrari powered cars but it seems not enough.

Ferrari are notorious for their inability to maintain any performance advantage over a season for the longest time now and it seems its slowly but surely becoming the case this year too.

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grubschumi13 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:07
Man, Russell making a habit of beating Lewis. Started 12th now in 5th. Really good job.
George is increasingly looking like the real deal. However a free pit stop (again) and taking a gamble on the hard tyre helped, he’s a lucky boy.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:20
Well, duh. As Frank Dernie says the faster of the two drivers in the best car usually wins. F1 is all about building the best car. :)
Well that’s a change of tune from your posts from the last several years :lol:
:?: I don't know what you are talking about.

When did I ever say F1 was not an engineering competition about building the best car, or not give Mercedes-Benz credit for being true to their slogan "the best or nothing" and building the best car? :wtf:

It doesn't change that Mercedes HPP and Mercedes GP are separate entities, and it is unsporting for Mercedes HPP to not agree a supply to Red Bull Racing at fair commercial rates. Nevertheless the HRC/RBPT is better now and by being stubborn Mercedes HPP lost many of their staff to Red Bull PT. Serves 'em right for not being sporting and agreeing a deal for Mercedes HPP developments to benefit RBR and Mercedes GP (and Williams and the others) equally from 2016 with a reasonable commercial deal.
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JordanMugen wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:15
JordanMugen wrote:
08 May 2022, 22:49
Albon P11, does the Williams ace have fresh tyres on?
Albon doesn't need fresh tyres to take the Williams to a point! :D
When did he pit for tyres? The feed I followed suggested he didn't stop.

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George is a step ahead of Lewis. Dont know whats happened with him this year (lewis)
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
08 May 2022, 23:21
George is a step ahead of Lewis. Dont know whats happened with him this year (lewis)
George gained like 2-4 spots because of a yellow flag and had much fresher tires. Did you even watch the race?