2022 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 27 - 29

[Spoutnik]

So bitter from Ferrari

Really ? Let them race...

[motobaleno]

This does not seem good for ferrari the pit line exit rule is not one to be summoned by stewards. It should be purely based on factual evidence. Now they will say the asphalt was slippery or something and nothing happens

[Spoutnik]

sainz hit the wall pretty hard at one point, didn't get picked up by tv

Can't see the vid
Do you have another one ?

[silver]

So bitter from Ferrari

Rules don’t matter anymore. Doesn’t matter that max crosses the line. Just let them race…

Rules didn't matter in Saudi when Leclerc crossed pit line while defending from Verstappen. Anthony Davidson was showing on Skypad that Verstappen didn't cross the line. He had a moment coming out of pits. I don't think stewarding should be too harsh. I was happy they didn't do anything to Leclerc in Saudi or to Sainz yesterday. Such small things shouldn't become reason for bad decisions.

It was strange though that Ocon was given penalty for Hamilton putting a wheel down the inside, again, in a corner to the car ahead.

[chrisc90]

Are you trolling or serious?

Rules don’t matter anymore. Doesn’t matter that max crosses the line. Just let them race…

Slick tyres and damp track.

I cant see it getting very far, but if race results are going to be protested for the most petty things, then its just going to open the floodgates for anyone that does anything wrong in the most miniscule sense.

[Spoutnik]

This does not seem good for ferrari the pit line exit rule is not one to be summoned by stewards. It should be purely based on factual evidence. Now they will say the asphalt was slippery or something and nothing happens

It was slippery for everyone.
Sainz from his onboard slow down a lot to keep it within the white lines

[lh13]

This does not seem good for ferrari the pit line exit rule is not one to be summoned by stewards. It should be purely based on factual evidence. Now they will say the asphalt was slippery or something and nothing happens

Don't know about Perez, but Max clearly had a moment of oversteer at pit exit. Slicks on a drying track, they can make a point with that.

[abcdefgh]

Slick tyres and damp track.

Why posting this nonsense? All that was required was to adjust speed to conditions.

[Neuron]

Neither Checo nor Max gain anything by crossing this 20cm of a line. Takin into consideration slipperies of track I don't see reason to punish...

[bonjon1979]

This does not seem good for ferrari the pit line exit rule is not one to be summoned by stewards. It should be purely based on factual evidence. Now they will say the asphalt was slippery or something and nothing happens

Don't know about Perez, but Max clearly had a moment of oversteer at pit exit. Slicks on a drying track, they can make a point with that.

Drive to the conditions. Others had to go slower to stay inside the lines, why should the rules change for max? Does he race to a different rulebook? Oh wait….

[GrizzleBoy]

What were they defending? Thin air?

All that happened is Alonso shafted Ocon. He didn't have to hold the field up for half the race.

Nonsense, they kept Lewis in check and prevented the rest of the field from getting in front of Alonso! Ocon shouldn't have gotten a penalty for Lewis' aggression, of course. And it seemed Alonso just couldn't get his tires switched on but after he did he pulled a gap, unless Lewis resigned to just holding position for the rest of the race.

Lol no, I don't know how you watched the race but on sky it showed that Alpine did not actually tell their drivers about Ocons penalty for the entire time Alonso was holding up the pack.

As soon as Alpine told Ocon, he replied that Alonso is holding up Lewis so he can't do anything. It's only then that Alonso finally decided to go faster.

Except Lewis,, realising that he couldn't get past Alonso, took on the role Alonso gave up of train leader and drove slowly enough that Ocon couldn't make any gap.

So in trying to hold up Lewis (for no logical reason) , Alpine basically guaranteed that only one of their cars could finish in the points.

Good job Alpine.

[f1316]

Crossing the lines coming out of the pits has always been punished - it happened to Schumacher many times and I remember a particular French Grand Prix at magny cours where multiple people did it in the same race (and all were given penalties). It’s not petty, it’s the rules and in this case, Max even said he needed to accelerate hard, causing the slide, in order to stay ahead - ie he caused it by doing something to gain a competitive advantage when his opponent had stayed within the line. That’s the exact definition of why rules need to be enforced as otherwise it’s an unequal playing field.

What’s very odd is that this didn’t get ruled on sooner - they even had a red flag period to figure it out. One way of the other, they should have ruled on it and come to a decision and then we’d all have known where we stood for the remainder of the race. It now *feels* bad - especially if Perez gets his win taken away - because it’s happening retrospectively, even if it might be simply enforcing the rules that everyone knew and agreed to going in.

[motobaleno]

Neither Checo nor Max gain anything by crossing this 20cm of a line. Takin into consideration slipperies of track I don't see reason to punish...

that's not true. max move was crucial to get the position from leclerc that was right there. It's not a matter of 20 cm: those 20 cm allowed you to go on full gas 5 m before.

[Neuron]

Neither Checo nor Max gain anything by crossing this 20cm of a line. Takin into consideration slipperies of track I don't see reason to punish...

that's not true. max move was crucial to get the position from leclerc that was right there. It's not a matter of 20 cm: those 20 cm allowed you to go on full gas 5 m before.

That is not true - it is clear visible that Leclerc was too far away, anyway. I would say - when you (Ferrari) f**k up strategy/performance then you start to look for 20cm excuses...

[f1316]

Neither Checo nor Max gain anything by crossing this 20cm of a line. Takin into consideration slipperies of track I don't see reason to punish...

that's not true. max move was crucial to get the position from leclerc that was right there. It's not a matter of 20 cm: those 20 cm allowed you to go on full gas 5 m before.

That is not true - it is clear visible that Leclerc was too far away, anyway. I would say - when you (Ferrari) f**k up strategy/performance then you start to look for 20cm excuses...

It absolutely is true. Source: Max Verstappen

“ Verstappen said that the wild moment exiting the pits was the result of him being super aggressive with his acceleration, which he reckoned was crucial to staying ahead of Leclerc who was right behind him.

"I needed it," he said about pushing so hard immediately out of the pits.

"Otherwise he would have passed me, because I would not have the traction. My pit exit, that was probably the most fun I had in the race trying to stay ahead."

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10313458/