2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

[BlueCheetah66]

Would be a bit cheeky but I wonder if Red Bull could ask for two new sets of soft considering it wasn't their fault that the decision was made after

[Shrieker]

Im actually shocked the stewards didnt remove the time immediately like with every other one.

Yet you think my assumption of blatant favoritism is nonsense

Oh the irony.

edit: I've seen the steward's verdict, but leaving it as it is. Perez should never in a million years have been allowed into Q3. What if he was to cause a red flag instead of the mercs, and prevent some other drivers from completing their final laps for instance, as was the case in Monaco ? Or gotten involved in god knows what other shenanigan. Not saying he's a dirty driver, but if the only plausible and logically sound explanation has become blatant favoritism, then the stewards have ***ed up massively yet again.

I would like to hear their reasoning as the session was yet live. -Yeah he's crossed the line hasn't he. -Yeah but let's allow him into Q3 anyway. -U w0t m8.

Something like that maybe.

[Sieper]

The cars are effectively in Parc Ferme now though?

You can repair a car under parc ferme, with like for like parts, without any penalty.

Yeah. How does that work with gearboxes though?

Wonder if Merc will have enough parts.

This year you can use 8 of them. Inners (moving parts) and outers (the casing). So if you have not used 8 yet of either you won’t get a penalty.

And if you doubt it just a bit just put new parts in there and test the old parts the next Free Practice.

[RZS10]

Highlights are up ... check from 1:38 https://youtu.be/5l5vI6oEzOI ...

Decision was published just now as well, all Q3 times deleted

https://i.imgur.com/92aOSsZ.png

So he's starting 10th instead of 13th ... worth it, i guess ... what a mess

It says Lap 17 is deleted too; that puts him back further

I determined P13 going by the lap time he had before his final run ... he was +1.171 on LEC's 1:05.287, so it was a 1:06.458 ... now that the lap time doc is published it's easier to check:


That would have placed him behind Bottas and ahead of Yuki


EDIT: he starts in P13 and he lost two sets of soft tyres, Gasly was robbed of a chance to compete in Q3 and getting P9 as all he would have needed was any somewhat competitive time to beat Lewis.

In general this should never happen, if i can call the off track whilst watching it live and the camera cutting away just as it happens the race direction or race control should 100% see it.

Weren't they supposed to implement a Virtual Race Control Room to avoid such mess ups? Did that ever materialize?

Edit2: Apparently it exists, at least on paper ... but it's seemingly as useless as the VAR in football at times.

[Shrieker]

In general this should never happen, if i can call the off track whilst watching it live and the camera cutting away just as it happens the race direction or race control should 100% see it.

I'm guessing they were all too busy not doing their jobs. They have more important things to attend to, after all.

[Sieper]

This seems not right. Take the time away straight away. Now someone else did not get a Q3 chance and indeed Perez has lost two sets of tires for nill.

[Gillian]

Im actually shocked the stewards didnt remove the time immediately like with every other one.

Yet you think my assumption of blatant favoritism is nonsense

Oh the irony.

edit: I've seen the steward's verdict, but leaving it as it is. Perez should never in a million years have been allowed into Q3. What if he was to cause a red flag instead of the mercs, and prevent some other drivers from completing their final laps for instance, as was the case in Monaco ? Or gotten involved in god knows what other shenanigan. Not saying he's a dirty driver, but if the only plausible and logically sound explanation has become blatant favoritism, then the stewards have ***ed up massively yet again.

I would like to hear their reasoning as the session was yet live. -Yeah he's crossed the line hasn't he. -Yeah but let's allow him into Q3 anyway. -U w0t m8.

Something like that maybe.

They didn't notice it until Q3 had started:

However, Perez’s infringement was not noticed by stewards until after the Red Bull driver had begun to take part in Q3

https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/08/per ... ck-limits/

So not favouritism as you where quick to say.

[214270]

Sounds like they’re under-resourced; not enough eyes on the parts they said they’d monitor for track limits. It sucks, but for whatever reason it doesn’t seem automated using coils embedded in the asphalt, rather it seems monitoring was manual.

[Sieper]

You just know all teams are looking at every cm of every driver in every fastest lap of each Q session.

[Chuckjr]

W13 fans:
So the temps have to be just right, the suspension has to be just right, the wind has to be just right, the track has to be just right, the floor has to be just right, the tarmac can’t be bumpy, has to be a true race track, and our rivals need to change their floors, THEN the W13 will be fast. Lol. That’s called a flawed car, and it’s still a second down on race pace. You really think the RB or Ferrari are going to slow as the season wears on? Were any of you F1 fans before 2015?

[GrizzleBoy]

Im actually shocked the stewards didnt remove the time immediately like with every other one.

Yet you think my assumption of blatant favoritism is nonsense

Oh the irony.

edit: I've seen the steward's verdict, but leaving it as it is. Perez should never in a million years have been allowed into Q3. What if he was to cause a red flag instead of the mercs, and prevent some other drivers from completing their final laps for instance, as was the case in Monaco ? Or gotten involved in god knows what other shenanigan. Not saying he's a dirty driver, but if the only plausible and logically sound explanation has become blatant favoritism, then the stewards have ***ed up massively yet again.

I would like to hear their reasoning as the session was yet live. -Yeah he's crossed the line hasn't he. -Yeah but let's allow him into Q3 anyway. -U w0t m8.

Something like that maybe.

They didn't notice it until Q3 had started:

However, Perez’s infringement was not noticed by stewards until after the Red Bull driver had begun to take part in Q3

https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/08/per ... ck-limits/

So not favouritism as you where quick to say.

Wonder what they were doing. They seemed quite able to see everyone else's.

Maybe too busy setting up the wind machines for Q3 lol.

[Oleo]

Strange how they place him on P13, he clearly participated in Q3 and they do not deny that nor cancel his participation, they just deleted his times.
The top 10 is made up of drivers who participated in Q3, so he should be 10th.

[Sieper]

It is a very, utterly, completely,weird and always unfair scenario.

To all involved.

[RZS10]

Im actually shocked the stewards didnt remove the time immediately like with every other one.

Yet you think my assumption of blatant favoritism is nonsense

Oh the irony.

edit: I've seen the steward's verdict, but leaving it as it is. Perez should never in a million years have been allowed into Q3. What if he was to cause a red flag instead of the mercs, and prevent some other drivers from completing their final laps for instance, as was the case in Monaco ? Or gotten involved in god knows what other shenanigan. Not saying he's a dirty driver, but if the only plausible and logically sound explanation has become blatant favoritism, then the stewards have ***ed up massively yet again.

I would like to hear their reasoning as the session was yet live. -Yeah he's crossed the line hasn't he. -Yeah but let's allow him into Q3 anyway. -U w0t m8.

Something like that maybe.

They didn't notice it until Q3 had started:

However, Perez’s infringement was not noticed by stewards until after the Red Bull driver had begun to take part in Q3

https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/08/per ... ck-limits/

So not favouritism as you where quick to say.

I checked to confirm that, the "noted" message came roughly 40 seconds into Q3.

[cplchanb]

karma for all the shenanigans he did last weekend after the restart.