Sainz and Verstappen have used all 3 sets of mediums. 2 well used and 1 heat cycle.
I think the softs might get some use today.
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Do you really feel than experts stating Ferrari strategy has been crazy support your claim of Sainz being mediocre? Because those are two very different thingsAndi76 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 01:12The funny thing is that its not only the armchair experts saying that, but almost every real expert and they all said what Ferrari did strategically was crazy(not to give the pitstop to Leclerc).Andres125sx wrote: ↑08 Jul 2022, 08:11OMG...Andi76 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2022, 06:57
Sorry, but he is mediocre. Charles is much faster than Carlos. Constantly on almost every occasion. Being faster in Silverstone with a massively damaged front-wing, says everything.
In terms of team-orders - he followed the team orders, but he also pressured team tactics to work in his favor. And thats the problem Ferraris Strategy Departement has. They then try to do something that does not harm any driver, but this is not possible. I really wonder how Ferrari, THE team that used to be the first to put their money on one driver, refuses to do this now.
Whats funny is how things changed in that regard. 20 years ago, having a clear Nr. 1 and making calls in his favor was a scandal(i just say Austria 2002), today its widely accepted and a team even gets critisised massively when they don't do this. Maybe Ferrari is still suffering from the ghosts of the past. But if they want to win the championship they have to realise that they did right back then. And all the criticism back then from other teams was just psychological warfare and hypocrisy. They did the same, just in a much 'dirtier" way(what became clear to anyone who didn't already realise this back then after David Coulthard published his biography). But anyway - Charles is definetely much faster than Sainz and the only car/driver combination that is able to beat Verstappen/Red Bull. If they want to win the Championship they have to commit to Charles, and they have to tell Sainz thats the bottom line. Otherwise the championship will be a Sunday walk for Verstappen and Red Bull.
So Carlos Sainz is mediocre, Ferrari knows nothing, they should hire you to provide them advise. How much talent wasted!
Armchair experts...
Funnily enough, Sainz did disobey TOs twice from the many he received in Ferrari in one and a half seasons. And on those two ocasions Ferrari got benefitted as both calls were absurd. IE, Sainz nailed it when deciding to comply, or not, much more than Ferrari strategy department
But he´s mediocre, he should be fired... Amazing how people can overreact when things did not favour their favourite
But its indeed amazing how people can overreact when others do not agree with them about their favorite. You are the best example as Sainz is obviously your favorite.
The problem with what you say is that Charles is not my favorite at all. But at the end of the day is about facts. Leclerc is obviously the better driver. He was faster with a damaged car. And that pretty much says everything. I could continue with him beaten in almost every qualifying this season or that a phenomenal driver does not need 150 tries to win his first race. But there is no need to, as its a very obvious thing. You say by yourself that he disobeyed team orders twice. And its does not matter if Ferrari got benefitted twice. Its the team that makes the calls and a driver who does not follow them is definetely not a teamplayer and will always disobey them. But on the other hand - a driver who always follows team orders that give a disadvantage to him, is not a driver who will have ultimate sucess in my opinion. He will become the next Barrichello or Bottas. So - i agree with Carlos not listening to Ferraris teamorders. What does not change the fact that Leclerc has much more talent and being the faster driver, and Sainz being mediocre. And that Ferrari cannot win the championship against Verstappen and Red Bull without putting all their eggs in the "Leclerc-basket".
Reason would say they aren’t concerned about any performance loss.sunny1304r wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 13:32The commentators are saying that Ferrari will have to change their floor because of the new TD. I thought ferrari said initially that they are not concerned with that.
Fernando Alonso is on a 142 race streak without winning.Andi76 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 01:12The funny thing is that its not only the armchair experts saying that, but almost every real expert and they all said what Ferrari did strategically was crazy(not to give the pitstop to Leclerc).Andres125sx wrote: ↑08 Jul 2022, 08:11OMG...Andi76 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2022, 06:57
Sorry, but he is mediocre. Charles is much faster than Carlos. Constantly on almost every occasion. Being faster in Silverstone with a massively damaged front-wing, says everything.
In terms of team-orders - he followed the team orders, but he also pressured team tactics to work in his favor. And thats the problem Ferraris Strategy Departement has. They then try to do something that does not harm any driver, but this is not possible. I really wonder how Ferrari, THE team that used to be the first to put their money on one driver, refuses to do this now.
Whats funny is how things changed in that regard. 20 years ago, having a clear Nr. 1 and making calls in his favor was a scandal(i just say Austria 2002), today its widely accepted and a team even gets critisised massively when they don't do this. Maybe Ferrari is still suffering from the ghosts of the past. But if they want to win the championship they have to realise that they did right back then. And all the criticism back then from other teams was just psychological warfare and hypocrisy. They did the same, just in a much 'dirtier" way(what became clear to anyone who didn't already realise this back then after David Coulthard published his biography). But anyway - Charles is definetely much faster than Sainz and the only car/driver combination that is able to beat Verstappen/Red Bull. If they want to win the Championship they have to commit to Charles, and they have to tell Sainz thats the bottom line. Otherwise the championship will be a Sunday walk for Verstappen and Red Bull.
So Carlos Sainz is mediocre, Ferrari knows nothing, they should hire you to provide them advise. How much talent wasted!
Armchair experts...
Funnily enough, Sainz did disobey TOs twice from the many he received in Ferrari in one and a half seasons. And on those two ocasions Ferrari got benefitted as both calls were absurd. IE, Sainz nailed it when deciding to comply, or not, much more than Ferrari strategy department
But he´s mediocre, he should be fired... Amazing how people can overreact when things did not favour their favourite
But its indeed amazing how people can overreact when others do not agree with them about their favorite. You are the best example as Sainz is obviously your favorite.
The problem with what you say is that Charles is not my favorite at all. But at the end of the day is about facts. Leclerc is obviously the better driver. He was faster with a damaged car. And that pretty much says everything. I could continue with him beaten in almost every qualifying this season or that a phenomenal driver does not need 150 tries to win his first race. But there is no need to, as its a very obvious thing. You say by yourself that he disobeyed team orders twice. And its does not matter if Ferrari got benefitted twice. Its the team that makes the calls and a driver who does not follow them is definetely not a teamplayer and will always disobey them. But on the other hand - a driver who always follows team orders that give a disadvantage to him, is not a driver who will have ultimate sucess in my opinion. He will become the next Barrichello or Bottas. So - i agree with Carlos not listening to Ferraris teamorders. What does not change the fact that Leclerc has much more talent and being the faster driver, and Sainz being mediocre. And that Ferrari cannot win the championship against Verstappen and Red Bull without putting all their eggs in the "Leclerc-basket".
everyone gets 4 sets of Mediums on a sprint weekend, and they started FP2 on the same set already used in FP1. So they still have plenty new sets left. 3 even, as far as I can see
cars seemed even to me, slightly better tire deg from LEC. The win streak from RBR wasn't due to car development.wowgr8 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 17:10Red Bull somehow manage to bring updates to every single race weekend and it's showing. Ferrari don't even seem to have the qualifying advantage anymore, they were already behind on race pace. They need to react, not even for the championship pipe dream but to win some races and stop Red Bull going on another however long streak. I want to see developments that aren't just tweaks to the engine cover and mirrors.
I think you are verging on hyperbole here.wowgr8 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 17:10Red Bull somehow manage to bring updates to every single race weekend and it's showing. Ferrari don't even seem to have the qualifying advantage anymore, they were already behind on race pace. They need to react, not even for the championship pipe dream but to win some races and stop Red Bull going on another however long streak. I want to see developments that aren't just tweaks to the engine cover and mirrors.