I understand Mick ran wide and over the white lines repeatedly in the sprint race at turn 8.
Are the track limits monitored differently between qualy and the races??
Race Control has been terrible this year. The primary difference is that you get warnings first and then are DQd after 3 warnings. I don't know if Mick got warnings though.
Just_a_fan wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 22:56Careful, you'll get a board warning!Hoffman900 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 22:391100 posts in 7 months and 7 upvotes (and mostly for just sharing a tweet), Max Verstappen avatar, and the only one with a problem here. Yeah, I can read the room…
Having actually raced in motorsports, this was nothing.
just based on my own notes, but should be more or less accurate (tyre age per set in brackets):
Perez was on the limit with that white line, but that's not a problem for me there. The overlapping wheels are. If there had been a bigger speed difference between them, it wouldn't have ended nicely for both of them.
there's a graph on the F1.com website. According to that, it's totally stable till lap 25, but on from 30, they lose 10+s per lapInsaneX_Badger wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 08:52How long could a set of softs realistically last in the race before the deg is too high?
It's called skill.wogx wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 09:11Perez was on the limit with that white line, but that's not a problem for me there. The overlapping wheels are. If there had been a bigger speed difference between them, it wouldn't have ended nicely for both of them.
If Hamilton had been 10 cm more to the left, for me it would have been a perfect, aggressive but safe ride. With wheels overlapping... It's excessive aggressive
+1. Real breath of fresh airJPBD1990 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 06:02Dialtone you da real MVP of this forum. Actual technical analysis and information instead of fanboys worshipping their faves and denigrating anything and anyone else. Thanks!dialtone wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 02:02Nope it isn't an excuse, it's what happened, both because of comments from Verstappen, and because of comments from Horner, and because that's what the data shows.
https://i.imgur.com/0PUACHb.jpeg
Lap 5 (VER best lap) vs Lap 15 (far enough into the race, but losing ground to LEC).
Engine RPM is the same, he actually brakes later in most corners, there's no lift and coast, throttle on/off times are the same except... in the fast corners, right where you expect to pay when your front tires are falling off. Lap 15 he actually gets to higher max speed than lap 5.
So once again... No, he's not cruising, he's suffering a little bit from tires deg.
EDIT: also lap 15 isn't a bad lap from VER at all, lap 17, 18 and 19 are worse or much worse laps.
The 2 cars are so well matched that the 2 of them had the exact same time on lap 11, both cars did 1:9.057.
At the end of the race LEC was able to still hit 1:8.996 at lap 18 and generally lapping in low 1:9s while VER was more in the mid 1:9s.
But you know... never let facts get in the way of a good story.
It’s funny you mention that. It’s something we’ve been discussing also between friends. I think last year a lot more took place then we’ll maybe ever know but for me it’s pretty clear LH colleagues don’t want any of him anymorelangedweil wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 04:55I'd say he's far from ready to retire ..
But to me it appears he's relearning to actually race this year (for obvious reasons), as the Merc is no longer in it's own (separate) league and yanking away into the distance on every occasion. Especially in the first few races he was really quick in letting his head down, which was stupid. Understandable, but stupid .. as it somehow cried entitlement.
Anyway, as of late Mercs are starting to maybe step into the two-way fight, and now he starts racing once again. Elbows out when needed, taking more and more riscs. The latter sometimes with an undesired outcome, but that's what you can expect when your pushing (or even cross) the limits. Actually, the whole midfield has to race a race as if it were their last one.
Another thing that's very remarkable this year is that all podiums without Lewis have been very .. pleasurable. Guys congratulate, laugh, explain what was hard or funny or interesting.
But as soon as Lewis enters such a gathering/room, things are immediately pretty weird, not always but sometimes even toxic ?
I just really don't like these psychologic shenanigans .. there's no need for.