And give up a huge tire advantage?
Makes no sense.
IMO Hamilton and Verstappen don't work well together, Especially since Ham sent him to the hospital. Verstappen and Leclerc both have more respect and better feel for each other.ringo wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:24I did not watch the race. But Leclerc overtook Max three times in one race. Surprised Max got caught out so many times. If it were Hamilton some crashing would have taken place to stop him.
Is Max too friendly with Charles? Because he was beaten soundly today if I go by the highlights.
Also how did Hamilton get on the Podium, who did he overtake?
Track position, with better pace, and degradation, for a little bit less less great of a tire advantage.tpe wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:30And give up a huge tire advantage?
Makes no sense.
I cannot read this graph on my phone. When the lap times get released from en.mclarenf1 then I will gladly respond.chrisc90 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:21The analysis dialtone did of lap times disagrees with you.Hammerfist wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:13Do I really have to explain that to you? The main reason Verstappen was far ahead is because of where lewis started and how long it took him to pass the slower cars. The other reason is that Verstappen built a lot of his gap while he was on fresher tires. But when Ham pitted he was catching max initially all the time and catching him up fast, but he was too far down the road to make any meaningful impact. What do you think that would have meant if they had started the race closer to each other? Even at the end, when they were all on mediums Hamilton was on older mediums.langedweil wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 18:50
Then where do the +41s after 71laps fit in that narrative ? Is all that part of the dra train ?
Come on .. still a very long way to go. And the fact that they weren't upfront, well that's part of that same package, isn't it ?
The scenario I was describing involved Hamilton not starting miles behind. The same way the Ferraris put pressure on Max, it would have been the same with Hamilton too. Max's management of the tires was bad today. No ifs and buts about it.
It's almost as if you people don't understand tire degradation and the effect it can have in a race. Even Toto said that the race pace was good even though the result and final gap doesn't show it. Please educate yourself.
Let me remind you:
https://i.imgur.com/4bF4ZWu_d.webp?maxw ... ity=medium
What laps were Hamilton faster again and ‘catching him up fast’?
https://m.imgur.com/4bF4ZWu?rHammerfist wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:35I cannot read this graph on my phone. When the lap times get released from en.mclarenf1 then I will gladly respond.chrisc90 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:21The analysis dialtone did of lap times disagrees with you.Hammerfist wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:13
Do I really have to explain that to you? The main reason Verstappen was far ahead is because of where lewis started and how long it took him to pass the slower cars. The other reason is that Verstappen built a lot of his gap while he was on fresher tires. But when Ham pitted he was catching max initially all the time and catching him up fast, but he was too far down the road to make any meaningful impact. What do you think that would have meant if they had started the race closer to each other? Even at the end, when they were all on mediums Hamilton was on older mediums.
The scenario I was describing involved Hamilton not starting miles behind. The same way the Ferraris put pressure on Max, it would have been the same with Hamilton too. Max's management of the tires was bad today. No ifs and buts about it.
It's almost as if you people don't understand tire degradation and the effect it can have in a race. Even Toto said that the race pace was good even though the result and final gap doesn't show it. Please educate yourself.
Let me remind you:
https://i.imgur.com/4bF4ZWu_d.webp?maxw ... ity=medium
What laps were Hamilton faster again and ‘catching him up fast’?
It seemed obvious to me though that the reason why Max pitted the second time was because hamilton was closing in towards his pit window. I'm pretty sure the commentators mentioned it as well. Are you guys too biased to even hear that?
So, they should have thrown away their tire degradation advantage, potentially even a potential VSC/SC pit stop gaining them another 10+ seconds all to avoid a super easy overtake?
Exactly this.holeindalip wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 17:28The fact is year after year they try to go around the outside of turn 4 and the corner narrows. And every year they end in the gravel. Maybe they should learn and move on
They still would have had the advantage. And nothing's super-easy against Verstappen.dialtone wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 19:41So, they should have thrown away their tire degradation advantage, potentially even a potential VSC/SC pit stop gaining them another 10+ seconds all to avoid a super easy overtake?