2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

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Is this what F1 fandom is becoming πŸ˜•

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chrisc90 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 19:44
mzso wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 19:43
So this Parc FermΓ© breach is because the Physical therapists entering, not even weighing issues... And they got suspended fines. How pointless and farcical.
Fia need to pay the wages and have bonus Christmas dinner with some money
suspended means they do not have to pay unless they do it again
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mzso wrote:
dialtone wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 19:41
mzso wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 19:19
Sounds like you're talking to a mirror. Verstappen was held up quite a bit even after several laps on the tires, when they could have brought Leclerc in front of him on fresher tires. Would have been less risky.
So, they should have thrown away their tire degradation advantage, potentially even a potential VSC/SC pit stop gaining them another 10+ seconds all to avoid a super easy overtake?
They still would have had the advantage. And nothing's super-easy against Verstappen.
How would they have gained 10+ seconds with a SC? Surely (well, knowing Ferrari Leclerc might not have...) both would have pitted and came back with fresher tires.
they would gain 10s out of having one less pit stop and that one they had was a cheaper one. This is basic strategy, you stretch your stint if you can to cover for any SC or VSC.

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wogx wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 18:33
Some things never change :lol:

So the question is more on if Perez is putting himeself into trouble by making such a risky move at the start of the race.
his car has the pace to pass russell and albon. why risk it all at the beginning? Sure its not your fault but you are putting the car at undue risk of being hit. its a red bull theme... perez...albon...

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ringo wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 19:24
I did not watch the race. But Leclerc overtook Max three times in one race. Surprised Max got caught out so many times. If it were Hamilton some crashing would have taken place to stop him.
Is Max too friendly with Charles? Because he was beaten soundly today if I go by the highlights.

Also how did Hamilton get on the Podium, who did he overtake?
shame on you sir/maam. what a pathetic comment from an orange army acolyte who doesnt even watch the race....
had you watched you wouldve known how hamilton passed the cars to earn the podium.

orange tinted glasses seem to forget the saint has more than his fair share of controversy in passing/defending...
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ringo wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 20:00
Looked at the Perez Russel incident. Russel was wrong. You could see for a moment where he momentarily freezes his hands to keep the car going wide to the edge of the track. He did not turn into him, but he did not give room which intercepted Perez's line as he was somewhat alongside or even ahead on the corner.
meanwhile perez and max got off scott free for chopping and pushing other drivers last weekend... essentially they put the decision up to the other driver on if they want to get passed or crashed and penalty

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cplchanb wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:01
wogx wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 18:33
Some things never change :lol:

So the question is more on if Perez is putting himeself into trouble by making such a risky move at the start of the race.
his car has the pace to pass russell and albon. why risk it all at the beginning? Sure its not your fault but you are putting the car at undue risk of being hit. its a red bull theme... perez...albon...
It also happens to be a Mercedes theme, RedBull losing out, Mercedes driver penalized to be at fault but slap on the wrist penalty. Magnussen showed how you can go side by side into the corner but leave enough space. Russell has been elbows out and driving dangerously this year in an inferior car, moving late in the braking zone.

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ispano6 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:08
cplchanb wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:01
wogx wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 18:33
Some things never change :lol:

So the question is more on if Perez is putting himeself into trouble by making such a risky move at the start of the race.
his car has the pace to pass russell and albon. why risk it all at the beginning? Sure its not your fault but you are putting the car at undue risk of being hit. its a red bull theme... perez...albon...
It also happens to be a Mercedes theme, RedBull losing out, Mercedes driver penalized to be at fault but slap on the wrist penalty. Magnussen showed how you can go side by side into the corner but leave enough space. Russell has been elbows out and driving dangerously this year in an inferior car, moving late in the braking zone and doing Totos dirty work.
other than the first corner jockeying crash last race please provide solid examples this year where russel was "dangerous" as you have described...

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morefirejules08 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 20:01
Is this what F1 fandom is becoming πŸ˜•
netflix is smiling in the background at their handiwork...

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cplchanb wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:16
morefirejules08 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 20:01
Is this what F1 fandom is becoming πŸ˜•
netflix is smiling in the background at their handiwork...
So are Merc merchandise. Ask them if they mind people buying hats to burn, as many as possible please
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Not a good sign. These type of sentiments can escalate quickly. Not every passionate person knows where to draw a line. Someone on the team can be targeted. Or even a LH fan.

It's amazing. Hamilton isnt even fighting Max for wins.. but yet he is hated for being on the grid. lol
Zandvort could be very high risk for Lewis and his fans.

By the way, solid job by Mick. It seems he is figuring out the car. He looks less of a pay driver now and more solid. I was concerned that he was made to look very orginary by Zhou. In fact i still think Ganyu is the better driver in f1, but Mick has improved a lot.
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ringo wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:45
Not a good sign. These type of sentiments can escalate quickly. Not every passionate person knows where to draw a line. Someone on the team can be targeted. Or even a LH fan.

It's amazing. Hamilton isnt even fighting Max for wins.. but yet he is hated for being on the grid. lol
Zandvort could be very high risk for Lewis and his fans.

Teams, drivers and media are fuelling these sentiments. Lewis his dig at Max last week wasnt helpful either.

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ispano6 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:08
cplchanb wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 22:01
wogx wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 18:33
Some things never change :lol:

So the question is more on if Perez is putting himeself into trouble by making such a risky move at the start of the race.
his car has the pace to pass russell and albon. why risk it all at the beginning? Sure its not your fault but you are putting the car at undue risk of being hit. its a red bull theme... perez...albon...
It also happens to be a Mercedes theme, RedBull losing out, Mercedes driver penalized to be at fault but slap on the wrist penalty. Magnussen showed how you can go side by side into the corner but leave enough space. Russell has been elbows out and driving dangerously this year in an inferior car, moving late in the braking zone and doing Totos dirty work.
You cat compare the Russell Perez incident to the Norris kmag overtake, Norris was way ahead into the braking zone so kmag knew he'd lost it before he even got to the corner. Perez however doesn't get ahead of Russell in anyway untill they are on the apex, and which point what exactly is Russell supposed to do?

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morefirejules08 wrote: ↑
10 Jul 2022, 20:01
Is this what F1 fandom is becoming πŸ˜•
I guess thats the same sort of scenario earlier on that someone posted at giving some Max magazines in Austria the middle finger?

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You have Lewis taking cheap shots at Max last year at Silverstone, so drivers should be setting a better example. These comments were from one of the biggest voices in F1 at present and doesnt really bode his thoughts, goals, commitment very well when your drag up stuff like that to 'fuel the fire'

Rivalries aside from last year, I think a line needs to be drawn on this one.

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Eventful race with a happy ending for me and all other Tifosi out there (obviously not fully happy, though), finally!

That F1-75 is a beast, sadly on the engine side a not so reliable beast. Max was nowhere compared to the Ferraris and it was going to be an easy 1-2. What a shame.

Hoping to see more of the positives of today and for the team to get on top of reliability issues.