2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Andi76 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:45
F1NAC wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:08
diffuser wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:04


Not sure how the tires get chosen but Ferrari had only 1 set of Mediums and 1 set of hards like everyone but HAM, Max, Per and Gas that had 2 sets of mediums, 1 used and 1 set of hard. So the strategies where a bit locked in from before the race.
Wrong.

Wrong. Ferraris had 2 sets of mediums

No. Leclerk had only 1 set of mediums left for the race. No matter what Formula1.com says. Its wrong. It was widely reported by almost every other source observing tyre use of the teams.
F1 site says, leclerc and Sainz had 1 set of mediums available for the race.

Both Ferraris ran 2 sets of mediums. How about that?

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Xyz22 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:34
Dialtone just highlighted that Leclerc drove another incredible race, like he did all season outside Imola and France. Once again, the team let him down.

Winning was very difficult because overtaking Max on track without a massive delta in a track like Hungary is almost a mission impossible. The car was far from perfect (and was already clear in quali) but a P2 would have been easy to get.
Max started 10th not on front row or alongside leclerc ffs , a proper strategy and overtaking was never needed .

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Shal_Leg16 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:43
Xyz22 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:34
Dialtone just highlighted that Leclerc drove another incredible race, like he did all season outside Imola and France. Once again, the team let him down.

Winning was very difficult because overtaking Max on track without a massive delta in a track like Hungary is almost a mission impossible. The car was far from perfect (and was already clear in quali) but a P2 would have been easy to get.
Max started 10th not on front row or alongside leclerc ffs , a proper strategy and overtaking was never needed .
Unfortunately, we lost time in the first stint due to Russell and Sainz. We also pitted too early for whatever reason, the same time as the soft runners. Crazy stuff.

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Xyz22 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:47
Shal_Leg16 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:43
Xyz22 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:34
Dialtone just highlighted that Leclerc drove another incredible race, like he did all season outside Imola and France. Once again, the team let him down.

Winning was very difficult because overtaking Max on track without a massive delta in a track like Hungary is almost a mission impossible. The car was far from perfect (and was already clear in quali) but a P2 would have been easy to get.
Max started 10th not on front row or alongside leclerc ffs , a proper strategy and overtaking was never needed .
Unfortunately, we lost time in the first stint due to Russell and Sainz. We also pitted too early for whatever reason, the same time as the soft runners. Crazy stuff.
sainz held them back ( nobody takling much about it ) , the gap wasnt good enough after first stint that allowed everyone Max, Lewis to come into the race ...whats the point of qualifying 2nd-3rd when guys from 7th -10th finish ahead ? Same thing happened at Silverstone Hamilton was in for a shot but Ocon SC incident scraped it off.

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F1NAC wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 20:42
Andi76 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:45
F1NAC wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:08


Wrong.

Wrong. Ferraris had 2 sets of mediums

No. Leclerk had only 1 set of mediums left for the race. No matter what Formula1.com says. Its wrong. It was widely reported by almost every other source observing tyre use of the teams.
F1 site says, leclerc and Sainz had 1 set of mediums available for the race.

Both Ferraris ran 2 sets of mediums. How about that?
I saw they had 2 sets. This is directly from the f1 site:

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

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I am still puzzled by the protection Sainz gets from Ferrari.
It makes no sense.
He should step aside, he was slower.
Also Leclerc has to up his comm game.
Ask to pass and if he fails to pass RUS, will give the position back.
Hamilton did it, so why not Leclerc?

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tpe wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:11
I am still puzzled by the protection Sainz gets from Ferrari.
It makes no sense.
He should step aside, he was slower.
Also Leclerc has to up his comm game.
Ask to pass and if he fails to pass RUS, will give the position back.
Hamilton did it, so why not Leclerc?
He asked if Sainz could go faster and the engineer started the usual "Copy", "Checking" "We'll come back to you" clownshow.

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Bad strategy calls notwithstanding (why start on Mediums?), the car was not switching the tyres today at all, see Sainz on softs.
I wonder if they made a mistake already on Saturday by not adjusting setup for a cooler weather.
On Friday they were much better at saving the tyres, which in hotter weather could be an advantage, but turned into a weakness on Saturday.

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Shal_Leg16 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 17:46
both Sainz and binotto saying - car had no pace ,

yet Charles overtook Russell and had pulled a 6s advantage on Russell and 10s advantage on Max. Was on course for a win How ?

or is its that Sainz is trying to hide his average performance and binotto is trying to hide his stupid strategy team ( he didn't wnat to sh*t on them in open )
This seems to be most likely...

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Wonder how much pace Ferrari are going to lose after the break when they have to adhere to the new TD with the floor flex.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:56
Wonder how much pace Ferrari are going to lose after the break when they have to adhere to the new TD with the floor flex.
Their floor is already compliant... Why do you need to be a troll?

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dialtone wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:58
chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:56
Wonder how much pace Ferrari are going to lose after the break when they have to adhere to the new TD with the floor flex.
Their floor is already compliant... Why do you need to be a troll?
No trolling? Genuine question. Especially when Binotto has claimed they are going to need to make changes; which is well documented.

Either they have already changed the floor to be compliant, or they have a floor waiting to test in Spa.

Fail to see where the trolling is there.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/disa ... /10335974/
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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timbo wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:26
Bad strategy calls notwithstanding (why start on Mediums?), the car was not switching the tyres today at all, see Sainz on softs.
I wonder if they made a mistake already on Saturday by not adjusting setup for a cooler weather.
On Friday they were much better at saving the tyres, which in hotter weather could be an advantage, but turned into a weakness on Saturday.


yeah I believe it had to do with the set up
may be they betted on rain

clearly, SAI was ( on reds) 1 sec over slower than Hamilton
this is not the driver that is the car

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chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 22:01
dialtone wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:58
chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:56
Wonder how much pace Ferrari are going to lose after the break when they have to adhere to the new TD with the floor flex.
Their floor is already compliant... Why do you need to be a troll?
No trolling? Genuine question. Especially when Binotto has claimed they are going to need to make changes; which is well documented.

Either they have already changed the floor to be compliant, or they have a floor waiting to test in Spa.

Fail to see where the trolling is there.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/disa ... /10335974/
boring... widely reported and discussed in this forum too that the floor change in France was compliant already.

And you're trolling because coming in the thread to ask a question like that, when your supported team has the same problem, is the definition of trolling. Go enjoy a beer after a deserved victory.

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chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 22:01
dialtone wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:58
chrisc90 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:56
Wonder how much pace Ferrari are going to lose after the break when they have to adhere to the new TD with the floor flex.
Their floor is already compliant... Why do you need to be a troll?
No trolling? Genuine question. Especially when Binotto has claimed they are going to need to make changes; which is well documented.

Either they have already changed the floor to be compliant, or they have a floor waiting to test in Spa.

Fail to see where the trolling is there.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/disa ... /10335974/
Asking this question in the Ferrari team thread, especially after such a race day, is trolling.

Also, they’ve already brought a new floor to the last race, as was told multiple times. Do you seriously think that they developed a floor just for two races?

What about you go ask this question in the RBR thread?