2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Sep 02 - 04

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04 Sep 2022, 17:53
This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.
2011 and 2013 only. 2012 Vettel won with a 3 point lead over Alonso. 2010 when Vettel had a 4 point lead over Alonso.
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ringo wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 17:53
This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.
Not even close to 2014-2016.

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ringo wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 17:53
This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.
That's why Mercedes didn't want to give them engines in the previous years.

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Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season

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organic wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:03
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season
Simply accept it as a great situation. No point in debating if the posts are just an insinuation. If Ferrari cannot win, let Max win all of the remaining races.

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organic wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:03
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season
Slower where?! Ah, you possibly meant in qualifications... Keep living with that thought.

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organic wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:03
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season
2020 there was no title rival as well. So we're not that far removed from an utterly dominant season by a driver/team.
I'm already looking forward to 2023. You know it's time to switch off when barring any outside factors such as reliability, crash, Max is going to win all the races left on the calendar.

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Ted Kravitz is really showing his sour grapes. These innuendos he is making in Ted's notebook is unprofessional.

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selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 16:44
Nice strategy from AT and RB to help Max then FIA helped him as well when Bottas stopped the car in the starting grid at pit straight. Why FIA waited for Safety car to release? They released Safety car when Max at the start of Pit entry. Too much of politics in F1 sports as well. Any car stopped at starting grid straight should be immediate safety car.
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#-o #-o #-o It is the same story over and over again on this forum.
If Max wins it is because he had help from the FIA and/or SAT and it wasn't because he was good.

How about: Bottas' Alfa has a Ferrari engine !!! AND he is a former Mercedes driver and boyfriend of Toto Wolff >>> caused a SC
so Lewis could win the race?!
This is also a stupid conspiracy theory!


By the way .... The restart after the safety car, I got the impression that Lewis wanted to forced Max into a penalty
by letting him pass just before the finish line by slowing down a bit.
But Max knows Lewis's games, because Lewis has tried this before with Max!
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grubschumi13 wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:27
Ted Kravitz is really showing his sour grapes. These innuendos he is making in Ted's notebook is unprofessional.
Honestly, when is Ted ever professional? :)

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Mchamilton wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 17:29
Yuki don't know what to say πŸ˜…
it's the 2nd time this year he caused a Safety Car when Red Bull needed it for an easy win, and both times in an absolutely idiotic way.

I'm not saying Verstappen wouldn't have won otherwise, but when this happens more than once, it of course should be investigated.

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ringo wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 17:53
This is one ot the most dominant seasons for any car. We are back to the vettel redbull days.
Car or Team?

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dxpetrov wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:21
organic wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:03
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season
Slower where?! Ah, you possibly meant in qualifications... Keep living with that thought.
It was slower in Bahrain, Australia, Spain (engine failure for Charles), Austria, Monaco (strategy f*** up by Ferrari), France (error by Charles), Hungary (another one by Ferrari). Ferrari was clearly the better car in those instances. People have short memory.

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dxpetrov wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:21
organic wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:03
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
04 Sep 2022, 18:02
Max has 10 wins little past the summer break. He will break the record for most wins in a season. Makes sense. This is the first season in a while when there is no title rival.
In a car that was slower in the first half of the season :lol:

He's also only 113 points off "most points" in a season
Slower where?! Ah, you possibly meant in qualifications... Keep living with that thought.
Bahrain, Australia, Monaco, Spain, Canada, Austria, Hungary (without Charles' pit for hards) - Ferrari had an advantage

France, Baku and Saudi - looked about equal

Imola, Miami, Silverstone RB had the advantageb

That's 7 races where Ferrari had the upper hand in pace, 3 races where they were about equal, and 3 races where RB had the upper hand

Seems like from the results, rb18 is hardly a dominant car but more like a dominant team. Fewer driver, strategy mistakes.
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