2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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chrisc90
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Max was well on on the telemetry vs Charles Pole lap. Right up to -.906 up until Max was told to back out. That would have been a mega lap.

Telling Max to back out of 2 timed laps was a little bit of a rookie error. Although from the pit radio and onboard they were going for 2 flat out laps at the end. I imagine he lifted a bit to get a little bit more battery before having 1 final stab at the last lap before the flag come out. It was only then they realised that the fuel level was a bit too low.

Also looks like RB have a little bit more engine mode than Ferrari this time round
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:52
I just looked at the telemetry and Max was still close to 5 tenths up on the penultimate lap at the point when he aborted. Whoever's decision it was to abort that lap has had a huge blunder.
It would not count anyway, and possibly wipe the whole session if he did another lap
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:56
https://ibb.co/Krd10kh

Max was well on on the telemetry vs Charles Pole lap. Right up to -.906 up until Max was told to back out. That would have been a mega lap.

Telling Max to back out of 2 timed laps was a little bit of a rookie error. Although from the pit radio and onboard they were going for 2 flat out laps at the end. I imagine he lifted a bit to get a little bit more battery before having 1 final stab at the last lap before the flag come out. It was only then they realised that the fuel level was a bit too low.

Also looks like RB have a little bit more engine mode than Ferrari this time round
i think a couple tenths was due to the fact his tank was beyond fumes

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cplchanb wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:13
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:56
https://ibb.co/Krd10kh

Max was well on on the telemetry vs Charles Pole lap. Right up to -.906 up until Max was told to back out. That would have been a mega lap.

Telling Max to back out of 2 timed laps was a little bit of a rookie error. Although from the pit radio and onboard they were going for 2 flat out laps at the end. I imagine he lifted a bit to get a little bit more battery before having 1 final stab at the last lap before the flag come out. It was only then they realised that the fuel level was a bit too low.

Also looks like RB have a little bit more engine mode than Ferrari this time round
i think a couple tenths was due to the fact his tank was beyond fumes
Could well have been. We could go down that route every qualifying weekend though. Either way. 9 tenths is a huge amount. A lot down to track evolution id imagine.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Will he come through the field again? Guaranteed SC/mixed conditions might suggest he has a chance

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cplchanb wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:13
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:56
https://ibb.co/Krd10kh

Max was well on on the telemetry vs Charles Pole lap. Right up to -.906 up until Max was told to back out. That would have been a mega lap.

Telling Max to back out of 2 timed laps was a little bit of a rookie error. Although from the pit radio and onboard they were going for 2 flat out laps at the end. I imagine he lifted a bit to get a little bit more battery before having 1 final stab at the last lap before the flag come out. It was only then they realised that the fuel level was a bit too low.

Also looks like RB have a little bit more engine mode than Ferrari this time round
i think a couple tenths was due to the fact his tank was beyond fumes
according to the data from 2019 (I guess not much has changed in that regard) one lap of fuel is worth sth around 0.06s. So it makes a difference, but not that much.

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Zynerji wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 16:20
I love the concept of this track. I love running it in the sim. I hate that it's just going to be a DRS train after turn 4 of lap 1.😪
We had several races this season with the same assumption and in the end it turned out that overtaking was very possible. Let's see.

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gandharva wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:21
Zynerji wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 16:20
I love the concept of this track. I love running it in the sim. I hate that it's just going to be a DRS train after turn 4 of lap 1.😪
We had several races this season with the same assumption and in the end it turned out that overtaking was very possible. Let's see.
Agreed. At this point, qualifying was good enough to cover a loss of race excitement.

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cplchanb wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:13
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:56
https://ibb.co/Krd10kh

Max was well on on the telemetry vs Charles Pole lap. Right up to -.906 up until Max was told to back out. That would have been a mega lap.

Telling Max to back out of 2 timed laps was a little bit of a rookie error. Although from the pit radio and onboard they were going for 2 flat out laps at the end. I imagine he lifted a bit to get a little bit more battery before having 1 final stab at the last lap before the flag come out. It was only then they realised that the fuel level was a bit too low.

Also looks like RB have a little bit more engine mode than Ferrari this time round
i think a couple tenths was due to the fact his tank was beyond fumes
If that is true we will see a DSQ of qualifying before the start tomorrow as they checked his car right away when he entered the pits. You must supply 2 liters for a fuel sample.

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Zynerji wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:27
gandharva wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:21
Zynerji wrote:
25 Sep 2022, 16:20
I love the concept of this track. I love running it in the sim. I hate that it's just going to be a DRS train after turn 4 of lap 1.😪
We had several races this season with the same assumption and in the end it turned out that overtaking was very possible. Let's see.
Agreed. At this point, qualifying was good enough to cover a loss of race excitement.
Yes, very tense, some outliers. Qualy on a damp track is always exciting.

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gandharva wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:55
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:52
Whoever's decision it was to abort that lap has had a huge blunder.
No, under the given circumstances it was the best decision, because otherwise he wouldn't start from p8 tomorrow.
If he had completed the PENULTIMATE lap then he would have been on pole, or at least 2nd or 3rd and would've made it back to the pits with enough fuel

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Big Tea wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:12
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:52
I just looked at the telemetry and Max was still close to 5 tenths up on the penultimate lap at the point when he aborted. Whoever's decision it was to abort that lap has had a huge blunder.
It would not count anyway, and possibly wipe the whole session if he did another lap
I'm saying on his penultimate lap, the one he aborted first. Had he completed that he would have been able to come into the pits as normal with enough fuel

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Imagine if it would have been Ferrari under fueling Charles’ car… ;)

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codetower wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 18:03
Imagine if it would have been Ferrari under fueling Charles’ car… ;)
Yep :mrgreen:

Cock ups happen. Not nice if you support that team :D

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Shame for Max but i disagree that it was a monster lap. Charles did not put in a lap at the end and the track was evolving at a very fast rate, so much that anyone of the top 4-5 had a shot at pole if they were the last to cross the line.
RB was on fumes and the Honda engine turned up more than Ferrari.