Turkey GP 2009 - Istanbul Park

[sunny1304]

I think Ferrari will be marginally fastest, followed by Red Bull and Brawn, but it all will be very close. All the others will be significantly slower.

Ferrari may not be the fastest.....BRAWN is still the car to beat.

[axle]

The RedBull will be the car to beat but Brawn will be the team to beat.

[ESPImperium]

Tyres are Super Soft and Medium, meaning that the same is gonna happen from Australia and Monaco on the options, if the temprature is simmilar to both those races, giving the teams a very forward thinking strategy. Pitting early on, get rid of poor tyres, then build from there.

Hamilton to 3 stop is a good bet.

Brawn, Red Bull Toyota and the resurgance of Ferrari will make it intresting.

[ISLAMATRON]

Tyres are Super Soft and Medium, meaning that the same is gonna happen from Australia and Monaco on the options, if the temprature is simmilar to both those races, giving the teams a very forward thinking strategy. Pitting early on, get rid of poor tyres, then build from there.

Hamilton to 3 stop is a good bet.

Brawn, Red Bull Toyota and the resurgance of Ferrari will make it intresting.

It depends on which is the "poor" tire and how fast(qualifying wise" your car is... If you have a fast car, able to get pole then yes use the low fuel to get the pole in Q3 and the supersoft to start the race since you will be pitting early because of the low fuel anyway.

But if not(ultimately fast enough) then the best place to use the supersoft is at the end of the race when more rubber has built up on track and extends its life.

This is all of course assuming that the supersoft is not durable enough to last a long enough time.

[ISLAMATRON]

Posible Developments:

McLaren: Fully New intigrated DDD, some minor aero tweaks.
Ferarri: New rear suspension and fully intigrated DDD. New Chassis for Felipe Massa.
BMW Sauber: Anything, it cant get any worse, can it??? In reality, DDD First version and a non-superconductor KERS, probably alot more aero tweaks.

Did you mean to type Supercapacitor? and if so what evidence do you have that BMW is/was running with supercapacitors?

[dave kumar]

A quote from Ross Brawn about the relative strengths of the car...

...Brawn is not presuming a sixth victory in Turkey on 7 June. "Turkey is a very aerodynamic circuit," he said. "If you look at the balance of the car's strengths, [it's good on] low speed and medium speed corners, it has a very good chassis performance, the aerodynamics are strong and they are getting stronger. The area of high-speed performance is where we know we are not quite as good as Red Bull. We've got some idea of how to fix that and hope to have it in place by Turkey."

Why would the Brawn suffer in comparison to the Red Bull in high speed corners when it is so good in the medium speed stuff? The DDD increases available downforce, wouldn't it be more effective as the speed of the corner increases?

[ISLAMATRON]

nope, DDD is good for low & medium speed... for high speed you gotta get max air to the rear wings(the high one & and the beam wing)... no car gets as much air to that beam wing as the RBR... because of the pullrod... at least thats my take on it.

[Conceptual]

I, for one, have never been able to predict winners. I would be betting if I could.

This yes you may I hope I am wrong, but it seems 2009 will be another dull, boring and predictable season, no? I had very high hope for 2009, but the DDD gang screwed it up.

Actually, the non-DDD 7 screwed it up. Remember, they are now the ones having to catch up, and allowing the Brawns to run away.

Don't blame the leader, blame the followers for not being good enough to challenge.

[djos]

I Predict a mixed RedBull/Brawn Front row - imo the high-speed nature of the Turkish track will suit the best in class Aero efficiency of the RB5 and the DDD should put them level with brawn for ultimate pace.

I reckon Ferrari will be the clear 3rd best team locking out the 3rd Row providing they dont go for any silly low fuel qually strategies.

[ESPImperium]

Posible Developments:

McLaren: Fully New intigrated DDD, some minor aero tweaks.
Ferarri: New rear suspension and fully intigrated DDD. New Chassis for Felipe Massa.
BMW Sauber: Anything, it cant get any worse, can it??? In reality, DDD First version and a non-superconductor KERS, probably alot more aero tweaks.

Did you mean to type Supercapacitor? and if so what evidence do you have that BMW is/was running with supercapacitors?

Supercapasitor, i screwed up there. I have no evedence that they are or were running with that system, i just thought it was commom knowlege that they were running with that system as thats the type they thought that would be best overall.

[mx_tifoso]

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Istanbul Park

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[ringo]

What's the strategy for the KERS cars?
It looks like kers can be a big factor here. Certainly have a few fast sections here to capitalize on it. That back stretch it endless.
Ferrari will be strong here, I am also expecting a comeback for BMW. BMW's run at Barcelona didn't go unnoticed, Kubica ran pretty well even though he had a problem with fitting a wheel.
Toyota may well be back in the top 3, who knows.

[ISLAMATRON]

Is turn 11 flat? thats the one they call faux rouge right?

edit:watched the vid, I guess it is flat out.

[paused]

Is turn 11 flat? thats the one they call faux rouge right?

edit:watched the vid, I guess it is flat out.

Really??? I never heard it called that. If you watch Massa lap video you can see it is bairly a kink and they are fully accelerating in 7th at that point

[Miguel]

Is turn 11 flat? thats the one they call faux rouge right?

edit:watched the vid, I guess it is flat out.

I think it's flat out for every single car race taking part there. It's not flat out, I think, in MotoGP.