2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

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chrisc90 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:51
Big Tea wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:49
littlebigcat wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:47
Perez must like being done dirty by his own team. Ooft.
Yeah, I can think of no practical reason why he was not waved past.
Agreed, Checo should have been let past. Thats a extra point for Checo. Not to mention a buffer for the race tomorrow with max inbetween.
What should be RB's goal for tomorrow?

Help Perez finish P4, or win the race with Max? Perez got completely dropped by Hamilton on the same tire. RB want this 1-2 in the WDC but they aren't going to start throwing races just to get it. Max is still their best chance to win tomorrow if the sprint race pace is anything to go by.

Perez has to help himself primarily by driving faster.
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I just checked the onboards for Verstappen hitting the debris. I think it happens at the beginning of lap 14, just after Albon retires. On the start/finish straight you can see Verstappen moving suddently to the left, probably trying to avoid to hit something. Right after he gets on the radio and says "I hit some debris".

Russell was much quicker the laps before already, so I doubt his loss of pace had much to do with it.

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Someone have the lap times?
Just posting

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if he held him back for 14 laps its pretty obvious the debris slowed him down

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Bill wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 23:01
if he held him back for 14 laps its pretty obvious the debris slowed him down
Or he was on 14 lap old tyres?
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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:32
Juzh wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:29
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:22


Is this around the time that he lost half a second to George and brought him back into DRS range?
Yes, but it could also just be mercedes are very fast because perez on soft apart from 1 lap was going 4 tenths slower than Ver at this point.
Wasn't Perez behind someone at this point? Norris/Magnussen?
No, he had 3.5s of clear air ahead.

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Thats a tough one to answer really. I think Max will want the most win % and same for RB, but I think Checo is a bit more important given the status of the season. I guess knowing the reasoning why Max was off the pace today would help
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Bill wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 23:01
if he held him back for 14 laps its pretty obvious the debris slowed him down
Remember harder tyres seem to require being brought up to temp slower in order to get them to last.

Heay have needed to push too hard too early to stay in sync pace wise with the soft runners.

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I think RB didn't optimize their setup after FP1 good enough resulting in higher tyre deg. After FP2 they knew that and decided to go for Medium.

That would mean that tomorrow Merc is the team to beat.

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The tricky part is RB are competitive in the first part of the stint. And they have plenty of straightline speed so they may gain track position, but I don't think it will last due to degradation. They'll need a SC near the end to level the tire wear advantage.
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Big Tea wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:48
renault rs26 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:43
F1NAC wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:23
I hope that FIA will decide in future to penalise drivers who cause red flags.
I would hate that rule.
It would have to be more flexible than a straight 'you called a red, it's the back of the grid for you' but it has its merits.
I think they should also study some censure for cars pulled in during the race that could easily have been safely parked.
no need. they already penalize deliberate accidents. just look at monaco 06. also look at hungary 07 for alonso on his sabotage of hamilton.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 23:43
The tricky part is RB are competitive in the first part of the stint. And they have plenty of straightline speed so they may gain track position, but I don't think it will last due to degradation. They'll need a SC near the end to level the tire wear advantage.
In Australia, where RB had higher tyre deg, Perez easily overtook Hamilton at the start of the stint but Hamilton was catching him later, maybe we'll have something similar tomorrow.

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If Gasly exceeded the penalty points in the sprint, would he participate in the race on Sunday? And then would he be fit for Abu Dhabi?

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cplchanb wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 23:56
Big Tea wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:48
renault rs26 wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 22:43


I would hate that rule.
It would have to be more flexible than a straight 'you called a red, it's the back of the grid for you' but it has its merits.
I think they should also study some censure for cars pulled in during the race that could easily have been safely parked.
no need. they already penalize deliberate accidents. just look at monaco 06. also look at hungary 07 for alonso on his sabotage of hamilton.
But that's 2 out of how many??

I did not mean deliberate crashing or causing red flags, more just not taking the extra little care and pulling to (they don't exist yet, but ) a designated stopping area "if possible" and there is a lot of flexibility here as a trashed engine means more to the team than not spoiling another teams plan.
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