2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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aleks_ader wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 23:55
Does Ferrari run maybe run with slightly higher floor to gather data for next year in last couple of races? Performance drop is quite impressive. Even due AOM metric and setup limitation, PERF drop is quite big.
It's everything. Higher ride height, reduced power from the PU. I think they'd be right there with Red Bull if they were running the car they had in Austria.
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Xyz22 wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 14:18
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18 Nov 2022, 10:51
I think Ferrari will be more competitive than you think. Same as every week, both will fight for pole, and the tyre wear problems have pretty much been solved over the past races.
The car doesn't have the pace to win linear races. In races where there are mixed conditions and/or with SC Ferrari usually is also the one to screw things up, therefore is even more unlikely they can win in these situations.

There is also absolutely no way they can mount a serious a challenge for the 2023 WDC/WCC.

- Awful strategy department
- Worst driver management. Sainz has been the worst perform of all the 6 top drivers despite having upgrades dedicated to help him and perfect strategies. Some unlucky DNFs but also a much quicker car for the majority of the season compared to Lewis and Russell. Perez poor guy always had the worst parts and often Ferrari like strategies. Got absolutely 0 help from the RB team, yet performed much better than Sainz especially under pressure.

- 0 political weight compared to RB and MB.
What a load of BS mate... the only thing I can agree with is the awful strategy department, all the rest is so senseless it´s not worth replying #-o

Perez poor guy, driving the best car on the grid with the best strategy deparment, and very little mechanical problems must be terrible :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Anything come to light on Charles complaining of weird oscillations on the PU?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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One lap pace isn't encouraging :|

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yeah, no idea what they plan to achieve with this lower downforce configuration. They lose all their strength in slow corners, meaning they end up with none at all (+higher degradation)

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Incredible, now there’s even a McLaren ahead of both Ferraris.

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Who cares about performance? It’s the last race. It’s mostly being used for tests anyway.

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LM10 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 14:48
Who cares about performance? It’s the last race. It’s mostly being used for tests anyway.
You still want to end the season on a high note. Test on Sainz’ car if you really want to experiment. Secure both P2’s.

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LM10 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 14:48
Who cares about performance? It’s the last race. It’s mostly being used for tests anyway.
I dont think they would want to lose second position though
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Big Tea wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 14:52
LM10 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 14:48
Who cares about performance? It’s the last race. It’s mostly being used for tests anyway.
I dont think they would want to lose second position though
I hope they lose it to have more wind tunnel and simulation time.

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If they lose P2 this would be an even more embarrassing season than 2020. Higher performance sure, but embarrassing nonetheless.

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I hope they hang on to P2. They were the 2nd best team before the toto directive.
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dont think they will be able to hold those mercs behind tomorrow.
At this track Ferrari tend to have Avg performance.

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One thing Binotto needs to answer for is in season development.
When Red Bull was upgrading their car early on, Binotto said Ferrari had a plan and they needed to spread the resources(money for development) throughout the season, envisioning a surge on the second half of the championship, well... the very opposite happened.

Now we are being "sold" that the team changed strategies and decided 2022 was a bust and switched focus to 2023, it's put up or shut up.

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Sevach wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 18:37
One thing Binotto needs to answer for is in season development.
When Red Bull was upgrading their car early on, Binotto said Ferrari had a plan and they needed to spread the resources(money for development) throughout the season, envisioning a surge on the second half of the championship, well... the very opposite happened.

Now we are being "sold" that the team changed strategies and decided 2022 was a bust and switched focus to 2023, it's put up or shut up.
My assumption is that they blew through most of the second half of the season's budget trying to mitigate the Technical Directive on the floor. Then seeing how much ground they lost, pacewise, financially and in the standings - they pushed remaining money on the next year's car.