2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:36
19points between Ferrari and Mercedes. Thats quite a job to overhaul given the pace of the Red Bulls are showing. Thats effectively a Ferrari DNF for one car to get close to overturning the gap.
It would also require Ferrari to not finish. Ferrari effectively have 18 points banked in for the worst case scenario where they finish 5th and 6th. Meaning the real gap Mercedes have to overcome is 37 points and if Red Bull were to DNF somehow, Ferrari would score even more points by default.
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:40
chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:36
19points between Ferrari and Mercedes. Thats quite a job to overhaul given the pace of the Red Bulls are showing. Thats effectively a Ferrari DNF for one car to get close to overturning the gap.
It would also require Ferrari to not finish. Ferrari effectively have 18 points banked in for the worst case scenario where they finish 5th and 6th. Meaning the real gap Mercedes have to overcome is 37 points and if Red Bull were to DNF somehow, Ferrari would score even more points by default.
At least one Ferrari not in the points.

A million and one different outcomes but even if we see a Ferrari only pick up 1 point (unlikely) then Merc will need a 21point overturn (20 would be equal - Ferrari win on wins) so the would need a 4th and 5th at best!
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.

Sevach
Sevach
1081
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.

User avatar
organic
1056
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Image

User avatar
Wouter
111
Joined: 16 Dec 2017, 13:02

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team
@AstonMartinF1
19 m
This is not a track invasion. It's a Sebastian Vettel takeover.

Tonight, with our friends and colleagues from up and down the #F1 paddock, we #RunWithSeb.

Tomorrow, for the final time, we race with a legend adored throughout the sport.

It's going to be emotional. #DankeSeb
.
Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS F1 Team
@MercedesAMGF1

Tomorrow, @F1 says goodbye to a legend. ❤️

But tonight, we #RunWithSeb. 🙌
.
Image

Image...Image

Last edited by Wouter on 19 Nov 2022, 20:49, edited 1 time in total.
The Power of Dreams!

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

I hope we get to see him do some donuts once the race is over.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Sevach wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:24
search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.
yeah, definitely not, but there have basically been no DNFs (among the top teams) for technical reasons at all throughout the 2nd half of the season, so that's very unlikely as well.

Apparently Leclerc could choose his running position today, btw, but preferred a clean outlap over a slipstream from Sainz.

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:44
Sevach wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:24
search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.
yeah, definitely not, but there have basically been no DNFs (among the top teams) for technical reasons at all throughout the 2nd half of the season, so that's very unlikely as well.

Apparently Leclerc could choose his running position today, btw, but preferred a clean outlap over a slipstream from Sainz.
Thanks for that tidbit.

Regarding the technical faults, given it's the last race of the season and components will be getting long in the tooth, I'd say tomorrow has decent odds of technical DNFs. One may argue that components being run at this time of year have been refined and are sturdy, but I imagine most teams would skip the event entirely if they didn't have anything at stake meaning they will likely do the minimum possible which will include using high mileage parts rather than manufacturing new componentry.
A lion must kill its prey.

BlueCheetah66
BlueCheetah66
33
Joined: 13 Jul 2021, 20:23

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:40
I hope we get to see him do some donuts once the race is over.
I hope we see at least some donuts this year. Last year I believe all we got was Vettels and then Schumachers failed one

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Are they selling the Vettel t-shirts? Would love one of those.
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
Wouter
111
Joined: 16 Dec 2017, 13:02

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 21:01
Are they selling the Vettel t-shirts? Would love one of those.
.
You could try and ask Aston Martin Team in their next tweet if you can buy that T-Shirt. :wink:
The Power of Dreams!

User avatar
atanatizante
115
Joined: 10 Mar 2011, 15:33

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Seeing the top speeds after qualy we could see that in the last 8 places there are both Merc, Macca and Aston Martin drivers... then taking into account what Leclerc said about medium tyres after FP2 race sim laps and what Pirelli saying tomorrow it will be a 2 stop race due to being wrong for bringing a step to softer tyres here, then I think that Merc and the customer teams will try to do a one-stop race... for Merc works team it's a no brainer to start on M tyres (the have no stress from behind) followed by a 1 stop for hard tyres bearing in mind that all year (and especially lately) they were kinder to the tyres, then the delta time between hard and soft tyres are within 5 tenths here with C5-C4 and C3 tyres and last but not least for the fact that last year the choosed the same strategy and had a better race pace compared to RB, at least from HAM point of view...
"I don`t have all the answers. Try Google!"
Jesus

User avatar
atanatizante
115
Joined: 10 Mar 2011, 15:33

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

What is that "2QU" setting we've seen on HAM's dash in both Q2 and Q3?
"I don`t have all the answers. Try Google!"
Jesus

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

Post

Only thing is can be is energy deployment settings. Nothing else can be changed, aside from brake balance
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.