2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

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chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:36
19points between Ferrari and Mercedes. Thats quite a job to overhaul given the pace of the Red Bulls are showing. Thats effectively a Ferrari DNF for one car to get close to overturning the gap.
It would also require Ferrari to not finish. Ferrari effectively have 18 points banked in for the worst case scenario where they finish 5th and 6th. Meaning the real gap Mercedes have to overcome is 37 points and if Red Bull were to DNF somehow, Ferrari would score even more points by default.
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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:40
chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 19:36
19points between Ferrari and Mercedes. Thats quite a job to overhaul given the pace of the Red Bulls are showing. Thats effectively a Ferrari DNF for one car to get close to overturning the gap.
It would also require Ferrari to not finish. Ferrari effectively have 18 points banked in for the worst case scenario where they finish 5th and 6th. Meaning the real gap Mercedes have to overcome is 37 points and if Red Bull were to DNF somehow, Ferrari would score even more points by default.
At least one Ferrari not in the points.

A million and one different outcomes but even if we see a Ferrari only pick up 1 point (unlikely) then Merc will need a 21point overturn (20 would be equal - Ferrari win on wins) so the would need a 4th and 5th at best!

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yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.

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19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.

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I hope we get to see him do some donuts once the race is over.

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Sevach wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:24
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19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.
yeah, definitely not, but there have basically been no DNFs (among the top teams) for technical reasons at all throughout the 2nd half of the season, so that's very unlikely as well.

Apparently Leclerc could choose his running position today, btw, but preferred a clean outlap over a slipstream from Sainz.

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search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:44
Sevach wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:24
search wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:12
yeah, it's very unlikely. It would probably need a Perez/Leclerc crash at the start, leading to a double DNF. Then a 2-3 for Mercedes (ahead of Sainz) would just be enough.
Ferrari seemed more focussed on securing second for the team than Charles runner up, maybe he will try a ballsy manouver over Perez but i don't consider this a certainty.
yeah, definitely not, but there have basically been no DNFs (among the top teams) for technical reasons at all throughout the 2nd half of the season, so that's very unlikely as well.

Apparently Leclerc could choose his running position today, btw, but preferred a clean outlap over a slipstream from Sainz.
Thanks for that tidbit.

Regarding the technical faults, given it's the last race of the season and components will be getting long in the tooth, I'd say tomorrow has decent odds of technical DNFs. One may argue that components being run at this time of year have been refined and are sturdy, but I imagine most teams would skip the event entirely if they didn't have anything at stake meaning they will likely do the minimum possible which will include using high mileage parts rather than manufacturing new componentry.
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chrisc90 wrote:
19 Nov 2022, 20:40
I hope we get to see him do some donuts once the race is over.
I hope we see at least some donuts this year. Last year I believe all we got was Vettels and then Schumachers failed one

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Are they selling the Vettel t-shirts? Would love one of those.
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Are they selling the Vettel t-shirts? Would love one of those.
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Seeing the top speeds after qualy we could see that in the last 8 places there are both Merc, Macca and Aston Martin drivers... then taking into account what Leclerc said about medium tyres after FP2 race sim laps and what Pirelli saying tomorrow it will be a 2 stop race due to being wrong for bringing a step to softer tyres here, then I think that Merc and the customer teams will try to do a one-stop race... for Merc works team it's a no brainer to start on M tyres (the have no stress from behind) followed by a 1 stop for hard tyres bearing in mind that all year (and especially lately) they were kinder to the tyres, then the delta time between hard and soft tyres are within 5 tenths here with C5-C4 and C3 tyres and last but not least for the fact that last year the choosed the same strategy and had a better race pace compared to RB, at least from HAM point of view...
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What is that "2QU" setting we've seen on HAM's dash in both Q2 and Q3?
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Only thing is can be is energy deployment settings. Nothing else can be changed, aside from brake balance