the lawyer produced four podiums for team in 2012 ,how many did vasseur produce with all the money.dont come here and write nonsenseNL_Fer wrote: ↑29 Nov 2022, 23:22Sauber was a pile of ---, after Peter Sauber chose his lawyer to succeed him as CEO. Vasseur turned it around and made a economically healthy team of it. Then he convinced John Elkann to invest his money as Alfa Romeo and built a good relation with him. I think Elkann has very much trust in Vasseur.Peter Ian Staker wrote: ↑29 Nov 2022, 14:32Can anybody come up with a good reason for Vasseur to be given the job beyond Leclerc’s camp want him and nobody better actually wants it?
Sounds like person Ferrari needs. Hmm
Come on in 2012 Sauber was still coming down from being the BMW factory team. Peter Sauber was still in daily management, James Key as a designer and Sergio Perez as a driver.Bill wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 21:04the lawyer produced four podiums for team in 2012 ,how many did vasseur produce with all the money.dont come here and write nonsenseNL_Fer wrote: ↑29 Nov 2022, 23:22Sauber was a pile of ---, after Peter Sauber chose his lawyer to succeed him as CEO. Vasseur turned it around and made a economically healthy team of it. Then he convinced John Elkann to invest his money as Alfa Romeo and built a good relation with him. I think Elkann has very much trust in Vasseur.Peter Ian Staker wrote: ↑29 Nov 2022, 14:32Can anybody come up with a good reason for Vasseur to be given the job beyond Leclerc’s camp want him and nobody better actually wants it?
Reasonable to expect Ferrari to be up there again. Who will be at the top right now depends mostly on Red Bull, it's their race to lose.f1316 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2022, 01:01Confidence about next year’s car: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10410196/
I do think Ferrari’s competitiveness will be entirely unchanged by TP changes - whether or not they’ll be competitive remains to be seen but it won’t meaningfully change because Binotto left.
Also includes diffuser throat, reportedly costing half a second as per Dan Fallows.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2022, 11:10Reasonable to expect Ferrari to be up there again. Who will be at the top right now depends mostly on Red Bull, it's their race to lose.f1316 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2022, 01:01Confidence about next year’s car: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10410196/
I do think Ferrari’s competitiveness will be entirely unchanged by TP changes - whether or not they’ll be competitive remains to be seen but it won’t meaningfully change because Binotto left.
Regarding the 675, development pazh seems logical, keep the overall concept and refine it. We will wait quite some time to see how the floor has changed, but it's not unreasonable to expect it to be the only big change.
Vasseur is definitely not going to be anything technical related. Altough I think he has an aeronautical degree. If he comes, then also someone will come to get a TD role.continuum16 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2022, 23:44I feel like it will be Vasseur, for better or for worse.
I've been watching F1 for over a decade, but still I have no clue what Vasseur's management style is like. The last year or two he's sort of developed into this kind of weird uncle-type figure, he seems a bit chaotic, at least how he presents himself in interviews. Complete opposite to Binotto, who always presents himself as fairly robotic. Again, no idea if this is how he is inside the team or not.
As far as his successes in F1 specifically; I don't know if I'm convinced he's ready to go head to head with Wolff and Horner. Maybe he'll play the true wild card act. More seriously, though, I think this is a huge pendulum swing in favor of Leclerc. Binotto was always hesitant to have a driver hierarchy. Elkann spoke more openly in favor of Leclerc. Charles and Mattia did not seem to be on the best terms by the end of the season. Perhaps, whether directly said or merely implied, it was a "him or me" situation. I do think Binotto was an effective technical leader, though; a quality which I don't see Vasseur being able to replicate.