Haas VF-23 Speculation Thread

[zioture]

[Goblin42]

[Goblin42]

Twitter video tends to destroy video quality but here's a shot of it rolling out
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/16 ... mp4?tag=12


also it looks like for the side intakes they went with a mix of Redbull extended lower lip and a ferrari design
expecting most of the field to look like this

[organic]

Twitter video tends to destroy video quality but here's a shot of it rolling out
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/16 ... mp4?tag=12


also it looks like for the side intakes they went with a mix of Redbull extended lower lip and a ferrari design
expecting most of the field to look like this
https://iili.io/HEWhG7j.png

There is the Haas vf-23 thread now because the car is officially unveiled we can post technical content there

[trinidefender]

Not unusual for Haas to have the bodywork looking like evolution of last year's Ferrari. Looks like keeping the outwashing sidepods is a safe bet for floor performance with a drag penalty they are willing to pay. Rear wing is quite shallow, so hopefully they will have at least 3 RW designs + Monza spec.

I like the sculpting around gearbox and wastegate, as well as floor edge details. Good looking car, decent amount of details, hopefully they can keep the upward momentum of last year...

Can't remember who wrote it or did simulations on it but I thought I remember reading/seeing somewhere that the extra drag created by this style of sidepods is slightly offset by a reduction in drag created by the rear tyres as the sidepods help to push some of the flow out around the rear tyres.

Any truth to it?

[Vanja #66]

Can't remember who wrote it or did simulations on it but I thought I remember reading/seeing somewhere that the extra drag created by this style of sidepods is slightly offset by a reduction in drag created by the rear tyres as the sidepods help to push some of the flow out around the rear tyres.

Any truth to it?

Yes, hard outwash created by the blunt sidepods has several benefits, but the stagnation zone still creates drag on its own. In my view, Haas gladly trades a few kmh on the straight for a good, stable car in corners.

[PlatinumZealot]

The rear of the car is interesting. The pushrod suspension definitely takes up space at the top. More space for the diffuser underneath it though.

[godlameroso]

Pushing outwash outside the diffuser to the limit! As I expect everyone to have focused on that, not too surprising. I am surprised by the details, especially around the beam wing, that's an interesting way of doing it, I approve! Center loaded wing creates more outwash, but the outwash is inboard of the wheel(the highly loaded section has been shown to accelerate air quite effectively underneath, and lines up with the furniture on the wheel itself). All in all it looks to be a significant step forward from last year, and that's just on the outside, I'm guessing much more complex underfloor as well.

[AR3-GP]

In my estimation, Haas sticking with the bathtub sidepod suggest Ferrari will be very similar.

[Stu]

The rear of the car is interesting. The pushrod suspension definitely takes up space at the top. More space for the diffuser underneath it though.

It is quite clearly pull-rod rear suspension…

[Venturiation]

i saw on the kyle video that they tested 2 rear wings during shakedown

[godlameroso]

Any experienced engine builder will tell you, air likes a good line of sight. Cars need their downforce while cornering so they would be designed to work when the air is under yaw.

This is a pretty good line of sight for air to have.

[cplchanb]

Since the actual car has been driven out now I think this thread should be locked and shifted towards the actual car thread

[Holm86]

Since the actual car has been driven out now I think this thread should be locked and shifted towards the actual car thread

Agree, why do people keep posting in this thread??

[Venturiation]

Since the actual car has been driven out now I think this thread should be locked and shifted towards the actual car thread

Agree, why do people keep posting in this thread??

maybe this thread is pinned at the top ?