This place is really impressive, absolutely bare levers.
f1rules wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 21:26here the interview with stella,
https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/13/mcl ... for-gains/
So not necessarily we have been able to capitalise these directions in the very short term and that’s why also I talked about the developments coming forward just after the start of the season.
Any insights PhilipM?We also have some more high level developments ongoing overall in the team
If anything, the car looks more “polished” than last season for a launch spec… A lot of work on the different contours of the sidepods for example.Chuckjr wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 21:27Thank you for that comparison shot, SmallSoldier.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:45Good comparison showing the amount of undercut and the flow from the tunnel entrance:
https://i.imgur.com/ifsRm9Y.jpg
Vía: Salvatore Asero
I really like the sculpted smooth undercut of the sidepod. It looks to me so much more streamlined and yes, this seems very RB to me. I like the higher mounted wishbone on the front suspension as maybe that will help fix their front end grip issues via leverage. The Ferrariesque scallops look outstanding and I actually dig the cannon tubes a lot of cars seem to be adapting. A really handsome car, Macca. Really. Looks to me so much more streamlined and sexy than last year. Let’s hope it’s as fast as it looks. Norris deserves a fast car. Well done Macca!
And it is to enable a looser rear suspension and more rake that the rear of the floor has the skidblocks.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:17Well, that’s all we have to judge by right nowPeter Piper wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:10Is that really something we can judge from the available pictures?SmallSoldier wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:04Another comparison, this time via Sala Stampa… It seems that the MCL60 might have a bit of rake:
But, there was a lot of talk about how with the changes in the floors, having a bit of rake (in order to not only increase downforce, but better manage suspension compliance) was to be expected… Pictures of the 2023 Alpine seem to show some rake also while on their shakedown… I would have expected a bit more rake now that the teams understand how to work with the Venturi tunnels a bit more.
I agree… There are a lot of small little details and changes compared to the MCL36 beyond the sidepods (which of course are what catches the eye the most)… But the front wing creates more outwash, they have moved the adjuster as far outboard as possible to create a vortex, they have also increased the width of the main plane of the front wing, allowing them to have the outwash generated by other 3 elements meeting the end plate.mwillems wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 21:52And it is to enable a looser rear suspension and more rake that the rear of the floor has the skidblocks.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:17Well, that’s all we have to judge by right nowPeter Piper wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 20:10
Is that really something we can judge from the available pictures?
But, there was a lot of talk about how with the changes in the floors, having a bit of rake (in order to not only increase downforce, but better manage suspension compliance) was to be expected… Pictures of the 2023 Alpine seem to show some rake also while on their shakedown… I would have expected a bit more rake now that the teams understand how to work with the Venturi tunnels a bit more.
You can see the ramp coming from the fences and past the undercut is also trying to send more airflow to deal with tyre wake.
The front wing looks interesting, you'd need to see it in the flesh, but there seems to be elements that are more spoon like at the very front.
And of course the most important changes will be on the floor and diffuser which we can't see.
I feel like it is more heavily refined than it appears at first glance.
First upgrade package in Baku. Seems reasonable.f1rules wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 21:26here the interview with stella,
https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/13/mcl ... for-gains/
Oh. Could have sworn I’ve just seen a rear wing with a double support- I wanted to check before I posted.
Just checked Monaco and Hungary of last year, they used a single one with their high DF package.CjC wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 23:26Oh. Could have sworn I’ve just seen a rear wing with a double support- I wanted to check before I posted.
I did wonder if it was to do with the downforce levels? They use a double for a high DF package?