Turkey GP 2009 - Istanbul Park

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Sorry I wasn't here when it mattered, but I always find all the sessions on the annoying but effective justin.tv
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ISLAMATRON wrote:got a live link? speed doesnt show FP3
no, I was watching pay TV Premiere satellite coverage. It is 10€/month for sport content if you have a general subscription. That works out at 5€/ race weekend.
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Vettel down another engine now, so both him and Kubica have only 6 engines for the rest of the season.

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Why is Massa pretty good everywhere but so devastating here?

He needs to seriously sit down and figure out what makes him so confident and quick here.

"I don’t know what the secret is of why I go well here. I feel very comfortable here and in the few tracks where most of the corners go to the left, I am always very competitive."

Wait.... what?!

I've never heard a driver say he is quick because a turn goes to the left or right.

Maybe he should consider following Montoya when his F1 career begins to wind down. Lots of left turning in the States.
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vasia
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Great job by Massa in practice, but I wonder how light he was. Devastating times by Toyota, their upgrades have definitely helped and they look dangerous at this track. Let's see what qualifying brings. Good stuff from Kubica as well.

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well done Vettel with P1 provisional

wow, Hamilton out in Q1
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Sutil makes Q2, and Hamilton does not!

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Good job by Vettel, Brawn and Trulli. Now it all depends on the fuel weights. Q2 showed that Vettel and Trulli were the fastest on low fuel. Ferrari is not much of a threat here. Improvement by BMW, but Kubica only manages 10th. Heidfeld doesn't make Q3.

Shame Glock did not make Q3, Trulli showed the car had more than enough speed.

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ISLAMATRON
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Giblet wrote:Why is Massa pretty good everywhere but so devastating here?

He needs to seriously sit down and figure out what makes him so confident and quick here.

"I don’t know what the secret is of why I go well here. I feel very comfortable here and in the few tracks where most of the corners go to the left, I am always very competitive."

Wait.... what?!

I've never heard a driver say he is quick because a turn goes to the left or right.

Maybe he should consider following Montoya when his F1 career begins to wind down. Lots of left turning in the States.
I think alot of it has to do with Ferrari usually being good on the very fast tracks, and his driving tendencies preferring fast corners rather than slow ones.

Plus he probably as the smallest head on the grid so that helps him when they gotta turn left.

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ISLAMATRON
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Vettel probly on another stupid low fuel strategy again... but we shall see when the weights come out soon.

Does not look like the green options will be lasting very long at all... 10 laps might be their max.

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Looks like the usal protagonists, Brawn and RBR and Trulli all P1-P5, Ferrari kicking on their heels, as with Alonso.

Sutil in Q2, good job. The McLaren is proving its a dog to drive.

Things im looking that might happen after this race is Piquet to get binned, and posibly Bourdais as well. Ill add in Nakajimma into the mix as well, as i feel that he is also is in the boardroom waiting for firing Apprentice style.

Waiting on the weights, Brawn are on lap 17, we know that much.

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freedom_honda
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how do you know Brawns are stopping at lap17? I heard that Brawn is heavier than RBRs.
"I am sure my day will arrive when I get more comfortable, get more experience and Renault progress into a better shape or I get into a car that is quicker," Piquet added.
how much more experience does he needs? He was been driving for more than a year now. With all due respect, he should just go home and drives his dad's lawnmower because frankly he is not exactly F1 material.

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freedom_honda wrote:how do you know Brawns are stopping at lap17? I heard that Brawn is heavier than RBRs.
"I am sure my day will arrive when I get more comfortable, get more experience and Renault progress into a better shape or I get into a car that is quicker," Piquet added.
how much more experience does he needs? He was been driving for more than a year now. With all due respect, he should just go home and drives his dad's lawnmower because frankly he is not exactly F1 material.
Because Ross said so in interview after Quali, and im shure that aint gonna be a lie, since he said lap 20 in Monaco, and Jenson pitted lap 19 due to the tyres.

Tomorrow, if RBR win, what national anthem will be played??? Brittish or Austrian???

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Word is that Vettel is in fact quite light on fuel, but we need to see exact figures.

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Weights are up:

The weights of the cars at the start of the 2009 Turkish Grand Prix will be:
Number Car Driver Weight [kg]
01 McLaren Mercedes Lewis Hamilton 696.5*
02 McLaren Mercedes Heikki Kovalainen 665.0*
03 Ferrari Felipe Massa 654.0
04 Ferrari Kimi Räikkönen 658.0
05 BMW Sauber Robert Kubica 664.0
06 BMW Sauber Nick Heidfeld 681.5*
07 Renault Fernando Alonso 644.5
08 Renault Nelson Piquet 689.6*
09 Toyota Jarno Trulli 652.0
10 Toyota Timo Glock 689.0*
11 STR Ferrari Sébastien Bourdais 701.0*
12 STR Ferrari Sébastien Buemi 686.5*
14 RBR Renault Mark Webber 656.0
15 RBR Renault Sebastian Vettel 649.5
16 Williams Toyota Nico Rosberg 660.0
17 Williams Toyota Kazuki Nakajima 680.4*
20 Force India Mercedes Adrian Sutil 668.5*
21 Force India Mercedes Giancarlo Fisichella 688.5*
22 Brawn Mercedes Jenson Button 655.5
23 Brawn Mercedes Rubens Barrichello 652.5

*declared weight

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