2023 - Predictions

Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
User avatar
F1Krof
94
Joined: 22 Feb 2016, 21:17

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

Spoutnik wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:34
SirBastianVettel wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:31
chrisc90 wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:24
Here's mine:
  • Start Master: Max Verstappen
  • Most Pole Positions: Max Verstappen
Not easy to be the Start Master if you start most races from Pole Position.
... If he keeps 1st place on each starts, why not
It's funny when you put it like that :lol: ... what I meant to say by Start Master -> is the best driver having the most overtakes on the start procedure, from the get go the first sequence of corners.
Wroom wroom

Spoutnik
Spoutnik
6
Joined: 03 Feb 2015, 19:02

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

F1Krof wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:54
Spoutnik wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:34
SirBastianVettel wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:31


Not easy to be the Start Master if you start most races from Pole Position.
... If he keeps 1st place on each starts, why not
It's funny when you put it like that :lol: ... what I meant to say by Start Master -> is the best driver having the most overtakes on the start procedure, from the get go the first sequence of corners.
Indeed, I was joking about his point :lol:

User avatar
Vanja #66
1564
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

  • World Drivers Champion:
Stroll
  • World Constructors Champion:
Alpha Tauri
  • Rookie of the Year:
Return of the Maz(epin)
  • Flop of the Year:
Ferrari
  • Surprise of the Year:
Red Bull
  • Overtaker of the Year:
Bottas
  • Start Master:
Sainz
  • Most Pole Positions:
Perez
  • Under-deliver:
Alonso
  • Over-deliver:
Hamilton


Even a single hit would be awesome :mrgreen:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

De Vries is going to beat Tsunoda, comfortably.
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
Stu
Moderator
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 10:05
Location: Norfolk, UK

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

:shock: :lol: :lol: :twisted:
Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 23:54
  • World Drivers Champion:
Stroll
  • World Constructors Champion:
Alpha Tauri
  • Rookie of the Year:
Return of the Maz(epin)
  • Flop of the Year:
Ferrari
  • Surprise of the Year:
Red Bull
  • Overtaker of the Year:
Bottas
  • Start Master:
Sainz
  • Most Pole Positions:
Perez
  • Under-deliver:
Alonso
  • Over-deliver:
Hamilton


Even a single hit would be awesome :mrgreen:
Red Bull would have to finish last in the WCC for Stroll to also not be “Surprise of the year”
:lol: :lol: :twisted:
Perspective - Understanding that sometimes the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

truly beautiful predictions :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 23:54
  • World Drivers Champion:
Stroll
  • World Constructors Champion:
Alpha Tauri
  • Rookie of the Year:
Return of the Maz(epin)
  • Flop of the Year:
Ferrari
  • Surprise of the Year:
Red Bull
  • Overtaker of the Year:
Bottas
  • Start Master:
Sainz
  • Most Pole Positions:
Perez
  • Under-deliver:
Alonso
  • Over-deliver:
Hamilton


Even a single hit would be awesome :mrgreen:

User avatar
Vanja #66
1564
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

I think Alonso to under-deliver is the furthest from happening, not by much but still furthest :mrgreen:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

World Drivers Champion: Max Verstappen

World Constructors Champion: Ferrari

Rookie of the Year: De Vries

Flop of the Year: team - Mercedes, driver - Bottas

Surprise of the Year: Aston Martin (not sure if it will be a surprise at this point)

Overtaker of the Year: Stroll (because of starting behind generally slower cars)

Start Master: Alonso

Most Pole Positions: Verstappen

Under-deliver: Piastri

Over-deliver: Verstappen
Last edited by avantman on 22 Feb 2023, 11:18, edited 1 time in total.

SirBastianVettel
SirBastianVettel
13
Joined: 28 Jun 2020, 10:54

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

avantman wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 11:03
World Constructors Champion: Ferrari

Most Pole Positions: Verstappen
You think Ferrari to have lost their one lap ultimate performance advantage over Red Bull?

avantman
avantman
10
Joined: 07 Dec 2020, 19:17

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

SirBastianVettel wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 11:05
avantman wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 11:03
World Constructors Champion: Ferrari

Most Pole Positions: Verstappen
You think Ferrari to have lost their one lap ultimate performance advantage over Red Bull?
Not exactly like that. I think Ferrari will hold their advantage on medium-high, high downforce tracks, but it will be closer on all others, close enough for Verstappen to make difference. As I believe he is in fact the best and the most consistent qualifier on the grid, having a car exactly to his liking. Previous car didn't suit him well enough(in qualyfing conditions especially), which will change significantly this year with the new improved car and new Pirelli front tyres. If you actually analyze previous season qualifying performances a bit closer, it was Verstappen who should've scored more poles that anyone else on the grid, with the car, which, as you said, was a bit slower on average over a single lap. Verstappen was the fastest in Silverstone, Spa and Singapore, but was unlucky on those occasions. He should've had 10 Poles vs 8 Poles of Charles.

McL-H
McL-H
-6
Joined: 17 May 2016, 16:18

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

World Drivers Champion:
Lewis Hamilton

World Constructors Champion:
Mercedes

Rookie of the Year:
Nyck de Vries

Flop of the Year:
Yuki Tsunoda

Surprise of the Year:
Carlos Sainz

Overtaker of the Year:
Esteban Ocon

Start Master:
Fernando Alonso

Most Pole Positions:
Max Verstappen

Under-deliver:
Charles Leclerc

Over-deliver:
Lando Norris

User avatar
F1Krof
94
Joined: 22 Feb 2016, 21:17

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

Let's see how far were we from our predictions. Here is mine.
  • World Drivers Champion: Max Verstappen - CORRECT
  • World Constructors Champion: Red Bull Racing - CORRECT
  • Rookie of the Year: Oscar Piastri - CORRECT
  • Flop of the Year: Mercedes. For failing to adopt to new rules and falling back to 4th - PARTIALLY CORRECT
  • Surprise of the Year: Hulkenberg gets a podium. - NOT CORRECT. McLaren's return to form for me.
  • Overtaker of the Year: Fernando Alonso - NOT CORRECT; I believe it is Hamilton
  • Start Master: Lewis Hamilton - IDK Yet
  • Most Pole Positions: Max Verstappen - CORRECT
  • Under-deliver: New Aero Regulations. They will spread the field even more. - Partially CORRECT. Even though the filed was closer, the gap to first is just unprecedented.
  • Over-deliver: Fernando Alonso - CORRECT in my opinion. Especially since seeing Stroll's form.
I think I scored 6/10 (counting the partially correct ones as half).
Wroom wroom

TimW
TimW
36
Joined: 01 Aug 2019, 19:07

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

F1Krof wrote:
29 Nov 2023, 13:06
  • Under-deliver: New Aero Regulations. They will spread the field even more. - Partially CORRECT. Even though the filed was closer, the gap to first is just unprecedented.
No it is not. The combined very high level of car performance, car reliability, driver performance, team performance, consistency (team, car and driver), execution and ruthlessness is unprecendented.

In terms of aero performance, the gap to first was small, closer than many years in the last decade.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

chrisc90 wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 21:24
Here's mine:
  • World Drivers Champion: Max Verstappen
  • World Constructors Champion: Red Bull Racing (although I think Ferrari will be a LOT closer this season
  • Rookie of the Year: De Vries
  • Flop of the Year: Mercedes.
  • Surprise of the Year: The new boys level/out-performing their teammates (Piastri / De Vries)
  • Overtaker of the Year: Fernando Alonso
  • Start Master: Max Verstappen
  • Most Pole Positions: Max Verstappen
  • Under-deliver: Lewis Hamilton
  • Over-deliver: Fernando Alonso
Hmm, not too bad. Clearly way off with Ferrari.

The rookie de vries did me the dirty. Piastri had a good season for 1st year.

Other than Alonso - I’d say most are just about there to be honest. Although I am tempted to add Perez to under deliver.

Once max got his starts dialled in, they were very good
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
Zynerji
110
Joined: 27 Jan 2016, 16:14

Re: 2023 - Predictions

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 18:13
De Vries is going to beat Tsunoda, comfortably.
That aged well! 😝