Aston Martin AMR23

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214270 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:42
Curious thing to reveal but…
Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
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continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59
214270 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:42
Curious thing to reveal but…
Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
I thought the minimum weight was 798kg? This is just saying they are at the weight limit.
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SiLo wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:06
continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59
214270 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:42
Curious thing to reveal but…
Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
I thought the minimum weight was 798kg? This is just saying they are at the weight limit.
Tweet body says 786

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continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59
214270 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:42
Curious thing to reveal but…
Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
It’s not a typo.. look at the image more carefully.. “overall weight” means including ballast to get it to minimum weight.

This is quite the bombshell.. 10kgs lighter than Alpine too!

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I think it is an inadvertent leak by someone who might not be fully clued up within Netapp. If the tweet wasn't pre-approved, it isn't a very good advert for a company that manages data.

786kg is pretty decent if you consider AM are one of the few with a properly painted livery.
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RedNEO wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:28
continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59
214270 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:42
Curious thing to reveal but…
Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
It’s not a typo.. look at the image more carefully.. “overall weight” means including ballast to get it to minimum weight.

This is quite the bombshell.. 10kgs lighter than Alpine too!
That's why it seems like it should be a typo. Aston martin were overweight last year and weight reduction is incredibly costly. To cut from overweight to 786kg seems unfeasible within the budget cap alongside development of the car in other respects.

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organic wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:38
RedNEO wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:28
continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59

Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
It’s not a typo.. look at the image more carefully.. “overall weight” means including ballast to get it to minimum weight.

This is quite the bombshell.. 10kgs lighter than Alpine too!
That's why it seems like it should be a typo. Aston martin were overweight last year and weight reduction is incredibly costly. To cut from overweight to 786kg seems unfeasible within the budget cap alongside development of the car in other respects.
Yeah you are right the tweet has been deleted. Let’s see if they repost it

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So they may still be under and have ballast but all we know is they are at the weight limit including the driver. That’s good news

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The tweet was edited. Maybe AM didn't want that information out there....

The first tweet said 786kg. Fascinating.

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AR3-GP wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:49
The tweet was edited. Maybe AM didn't want that information out there....

The first tweet said 786kg. Fascinating.
It’s fascinating.. the image still says “overall weight 798kgs” so does that mean they slipped or just an honest mistake and we just don’t know how much under they are?

Edit: I’m thinking the “overall” means driver and any ballast ;)

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They did a demo day today and I spotted this.. given scarbs suggested earlier today that there are 2 other teams apart from Ferrari who will run it at Bahrain, it seems possible that it is this

From this video:



Play the video from 13s and look where I've highlighted. Seems certainly a duct no?

Scarbs found pic of this area they released with Alonso sitting on the suspension earlier today and there are marks on the panels in this area suggesting to me that they're removable and they swap in the duct panel

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Beautiful!

When I first saw the huge dive of the channels up in the sidepods, i was afraid of a stall zone in the lower section. But if you feed this point with a fast stream, you might solve the problem. And in addition you can improve the flow on the sides of the monocoque.

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If it is an S-Duct, where’s the exit?

The video from Kyle on the Ferrari shows how the S-Duct exit fits within the legality box before the sidepod geometry. If you look at the AMR23, it’s not clear where the exit would be that is legal.

[edit] Go to 8-minutes in this video to see the explanation of how Ferrari makes the S-Duct legal:

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organic wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:38
RedNEO wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 17:28
continuum16 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 16:59

Given that the graphic says the weight is 798kg, I’d guess this is either a misunderstanding or a simple typo on the post. I would be astounded if they went from overweight to 12kg under the limit.
It’s not a typo.. look at the image more carefully.. “overall weight” means including ballast to get it to minimum weight.

This is quite the bombshell.. 10kgs lighter than Alpine too!
That's why it seems like it should be a typo. Aston martin were overweight last year and weight reduction is incredibly costly. To cut from overweight to 786kg seems unfeasible within the budget cap alongside development of the car in other respects.
Mercedes gave them a new rear suspension and gearbox. Also remember that the AMR22 was incredibly unoptimized because they essentially bad a base that ran two different aero packages.

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 00:48
Mercedes gave them a new rear suspension and gearbox. Also remember that the AMR22 was incredibly unoptimized because they essentially bad a base that ran two different aero packages.
Mercedes sold AM their new rear suspension and gearbox under permitted parts.