2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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I think you're making early assumptions.

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Anthony Davidson impressed by Piastri when he was watching trackside

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We won't know how McLaren compares to other teams until Qualifying and the Race next weekend. Testing times are not always indicative of the relative performance of the
cars.

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taperoo2k wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:41
We won't know how McLaren compares to other teams until Qualifying and the Race next weekend. Testing times are not always indicative of the relative performance of the
cars.
nobody is looking at times :D

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:40
I think you're making early assumptions.
How so? You don't think this car is clearly quicker than last years?
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mwillems wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:45
Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:40
I think you're making early assumptions.
How so? You don't think this car is clearly quicker than last years?
Considering the brake issues Mclaren had last year at Bahrain, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a course in rational thinking.
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organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:42
taperoo2k wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:41
We won't know how McLaren compares to other teams until Qualifying and the Race next weekend. Testing times are not always indicative of the relative performance of the
cars.
nobody is looking at times :D
My point being we won't know how the performance order shakes out until next weekend.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:33
Ok the car is faster but how do you come to the conclusion that the other cars are even faster than Mclaren if there isn't any comparison yet?
That's not what he said though.
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organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:40
Anthony Davidson impressed by Piastri when he was watching trackside
Any idea why ? What is Piastri doing that is special ?

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What I am saying is that Mclaren 2023 is clearly way faster than last year's car. What I am against is the opinion that other teams new cars are faster than the current Mclaren when nobody has gone on quick laps.

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he was impressedd how he wrestled the car, but they went on to say, that they were very insecure about the vibes coming out from the team, whereas am and alpine there are positive vibes/rumors
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23 Feb 2023, 12:40
Anthony Davidson impressed by Piastri when he was watching trackside
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djos wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:49
mwillems wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:45
Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:40
I think you're making early assumptions.
How so? You don't think this car is clearly quicker than last years?
Considering the brake issues Mclaren had last year at Bahrain, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take a course in rational thinking.
Yeah over a circuit if this isn't faster I'll eat my own shoes, and for anyone who has been near my shoes will tell you, that's a big thing!

But for speed traps in Qualy the brakes were less of a thing and they should reflect. it is worth factoring in that at the start of the sesin the Merc engines were being a bit more conservative.

But to put it another way, we are not trying to go fast and we are about matching the fastest speed traps from cars that were set up to go very fast.
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mclaren111 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:52
organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:40
Anthony Davidson impressed by Piastri when he was watching trackside
Any idea why ? What is Piastri doing that is special ?
Was saying he seemed on top of the car and already able to push the car. He said he wasn't driving like a rookie essentially

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:52
What I am saying is that Mclaren 2023 is clearly way faster than last year's car. What I am against is the opinion that other teams new cars are faster than the current Mclaren when nobody has gone on quick laps.
But who said such a thing? I haven't seen anything suggesting that?

You'd do well to reply to specific comments as it is sometimes confusing who you are replying to.
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Then my apologies. I understood your meaning wrong before. I assumed you said that the other teams had much faster 2023 cars than Mclaren 2023.