2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

[NAPI10]

Lance missed all test runs & not able to provide any feedback.
Will that translate to Alonso pushing the team to develop the car as per his preference?

You think he wouldn’t anyway?

True

[Henk_v]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

[VJ45]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

Daddy was in a spending loop that's why this team is still standing here. Otherwise, it would have been swallowed by greedy bankers.
If Lawrence is the one responsible for the team's failure in the past then he should be credited for any success they get in the future.

[yinlad]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning lmao what a load of bitter vitriol

[the EDGE]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

I think most would agree, there’s far less deserving drivers on the grid than Lance. He’s proved he’s good enough to be there now with his own talent now

[Chuckjr]

Mark my words, AMR will be ahead of Merc.

[McMika98]

Hard to compare when one sim was done during the night and the other one when the sun was at the zenith.

Noted. Haas afternoon race sim as a comparison then.

https://twitter.com/f1debrief/status/16 ... ablJ0tAAAA

Initially I thought Alonso's stint was MEGA MEGA, ala RedBull' esque. But digging deeper in the timing and track condition. Alonso started his race stint with less than 2 hours remaining by then both KMag and Albon had done 50 laps on the hotter condition, the track definitely improves then and there is less deg even for both KMag and Albon. However it still is impressive that Alonso was improving his times whilst Sainz at same time was losing time.

[Bisonas]

Alonso just completed a race sim.
C3 16L (on 3 lap used tires)
C1 21L
C2 21L

It really looked very very good.
Alonso was staring the stints concretively for a few laps, then keep lowering his delta and being very very consistent.

IMO Sainz started a race sim a few laps after him, Trying C3 18L then C3orC2 8L then C1 9L and then it seemed to me like they aborted the sim. In all of Sainz stints it seemed to me that they had very very high degradation that ultimately made them abort the race sim. Their times where getting worst and worst, quite fast.

It looked to me, a very very good race sim.
I don't know how much fuel Ferrari where carrying, but it looked to me like AM (In Alonso hands) could be equal or faster than ferrari (In Sainz hands) in race pace next week.

The numbers don’t support this but OK.

Well that's the data.
I isolated the Alonso/Sainz Stints.
Same time of the day. Sainz started his C3 stint with a few lap difference from Alonso.
All pit stops from both drivers where in and out for changing tires. Fast pit stops.

[JPower]

Alonso just completed a race sim.
C3 16L (on 3 lap used tires)
C1 21L
C2 21L

It really looked very very good.
Alonso was staring the stints concretively for a few laps, then keep lowering his delta and being very very consistent.

IMO Sainz started a race sim a few laps after him, Trying C3 18L then C3orC2 8L then C1 9L and then it seemed to me like they aborted the sim. In all of Sainz stints it seemed to me that they had very very high degradation that ultimately made them abort the race sim. Their times where getting worst and worst, quite fast.

It looked to me, a very very good race sim.
I don't know how much fuel Ferrari where carrying, but it looked to me like AM (In Alonso hands) could be equal or faster than ferrari (In Sainz hands) in race pace next week.

The numbers don’t support this but OK.

Well that's the data.
I isolated the Alonso/Sainz Stints.
Same time of the day. Sainz started his C3 stint with a few lap difference from Alonso.
All pit stops from both drivers where in and out for changing tires. Fast pit stops.

https://ibb.co/qMBDcFB

None of those stints show “very very high degradation”. The Aston is showing low deg. Sainz run plan was shortened because Ferrari fitted a new floor to the car for the last C3 stint of the day.

You’re making big assumptions of very incomplete data.

[LM10]

The numbers don’t support this but OK.

Well that's the data.
I isolated the Alonso/Sainz Stints.
Same time of the day. Sainz started his C3 stint with a few lap difference from Alonso.
All pit stops from both drivers where in and out for changing tires. Fast pit stops.

https://ibb.co/qMBDcFB

None of those stints show “very very high degradation”. The Aston is showing low deg. Sainz run plan was shortened because Ferrari fitted a new floor to the car for the last C3 stint of the day.

You’re making big assumptions of very incomplete data.

That’s not even a race sim from Sainz to begin with. So absolutely useless to compare those stints to actual race sim stints.

That’s obviously a whole Bahrain race sim from Alonso and next to it some random
stints from Sainz. Comparing them does not make any sense.

[Sevach]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

So far Lawrence has allowed every driver to beat Lance, Perez, Vettel...
You don't hire Alonso to give your other driver an easy life.

He does protect him, and he'll have an AMR seat "forever" but as far as being lead driver in the team, Lawrence is very "sink or swim, up to you".

[JPower]

That’s not even a race sim from Sainz to begin with. So absolutely useless to compare those stints to actual race sim stints.

That’s obviously a whole Bahrain race sim from Alonso and next to it some random
stints from Sainz. Comparing them does not make any sense.

I think those stints were used because they occurred at a similar time of day. Regardless, you’re correct. There’s no correlation.

[Bisonas]

The numbers don’t support this but OK.

Well that's the data.
I isolated the Alonso/Sainz Stints.
Same time of the day. Sainz started his C3 stint with a few lap difference from Alonso.
All pit stops from both drivers where in and out for changing tires. Fast pit stops.

https://ibb.co/qMBDcFB

None of those stints show “very very high degradation”. The Aston is showing low deg. Sainz run plan was shortened because Ferrari fitted a new floor to the car for the last C3 stint of the day.

You’re making big assumptions of very incomplete data.

High degradation was my assumption. yes.
I expected Sainz to do 15-20 laps on the C2 and he did 8 with clear signs of degradation or some other problem.
I remind you that all pit stops where in and out, fast pit stops changing tires only.
When they have so comparable first stints, and both do fast pit stops for tires only, i assume they are on race sim.
It's the logical assumption. C2 Sainz stint looked like high degradation for me. For you maybe it looked normal. its ok.
There are 1000 possible reasons why they may aborted the sim and that C2 stint looks very weird in did. I am not in their garage to know what happened. From the times (fuel load) and the fast pit stops though i do assume they started it as a race sim.

[GoranF1]

Alltogether, daddy spent around a billion dollars to get his son here. Even compensating any lack in talent with a new factory, paying people to call him talented and now getting in the legend Alonso as a teacher. Maybe, just maybe Alonso is allowed a year of dominance, but the reason he was purchased is his closeing expiration date as to not pose an enduring threat to Lance. I bet the mechanisms are in place to not typeform the team around Alonsos preferences permanently.

But who knows. Maybe Daddy was in a spending loop as Lance did not overwhelmingly dissapoint and needed to double down. Just maybe the broken wrists provide the gracious exit...

If everyone else were mandatory to drive entire season in reverse, Lance would still not be able to win championship

[LM10]

High degradation was my assumption. yes.
I expected Sainz to do 15-20 laps on the C2 and he did 8 with clear signs of degradation.
I remind you that all pit stops where in and out, fast pit stops changing tires only.
When they have so comparable first stints, and both do fast pit stops for tires only, i assume they are on race sim.
It's the logical assumption. C2 Sainz stint looked like high degradation for me. For you maybe it looked normal. its ok.
There are 1000 possible reasons why they may aborted the sim and that C2 stint looks very weird in did. I am not in their garage to know what happened. From the times (fuel load) and the fast pit stops though i do assume they started it as a race sim.

Dropping one second in lap time already in the fourth lap on C2s can’t be a race sim. No matter the car, no matter the driver, no matter the track.