Ferrari SF23

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If they use a "heavier" BW it is very likely that they'll use FW with higher DW than they used on tests.
Any pictures someone?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 13:24
That last one is F1-75, I posted it for beam wing comparison, sorry for confusion :)
Sorry guys my mistake - or Vanja's since he confused me :lol: . No sorry - was not paying attention, thought it was a new photo from today

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FDD wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 13:55
If they use a "heavier" BW it is very likely that they'll use FW with higher DW than they used on tests.
Any pictures someone?
What would you like pics of?

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nico5 wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 13:45
Two very naive questions about that heavily downwashing driveshaft:

I was under the impression that suspension/driveshaft elements were mandated to have a neutral angle, is it not the case?

Is that bit considered far enough from the diffuser exit so that some downwash might actually help drive the rear corner winglets by increasing their AoA rather than inducing separation in the diffuser edge itself, which is most sensitive as it's where you also go for lateral expansion at aggressive radii, although far less than pre-'22. The fact that the trailing edge only dips down towards the outside would point to that. Would the downward transition combined with the relatively high camber of that wing body also help achieving that 45°-outwash effect that they're aiming for in the diffuser corner?
Aerofoils have no camber (neutral), angles don't need to be (except the camera pod angles I think). I think you are right about the driveshaft and brake duct winglets, although there is no lateral expansion in the diffuser at all since last year. Teams use big radii clearance in rules to add some curvature locally, but that's just to speed-up the airflow locally and reduce the pressure just a bit more. Outwashing diffuser would have an entire fence curved outside and this is not the case, rules don't allow that.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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organic wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 13:55
FDD wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 13:55
If they use a "heavier" BW it is very likely that they'll use FW with higher DW than they used on tests.
Any pictures someone?
What would you like pics of?
Front wing

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That FW in the background looks like one with higher DW than the one they used ov tests.

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Has anyone seen the single pylon rear wing yet? The latest formu1a.uno post says they will bring the new wing but the author also isn't Duchessa. Additionally, could it be possible that Ferrari run much skinnier wings this season because they get much better airflow than last season to the RW?

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That's the same as the one in the tests

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I think they need to test at least 2 BW, one from the tests and another for Bahrain and see which is good enough for both quali and race pace
From my understanding Ferrari in the pre-testing they chose to test for other tracks and let Bahrain test for this weekend FP1-2 and 3

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It seems that the floor edge has a rise that was not there in the tests:

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New front brake configuration for the SF23:

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Vanja #66 wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 11:39
Bigger beam wing upper flap than seen in testing. Not as big as last year, so this is something like medium-downforce beam wing :lol: The nuances will be crazy in 2025 the way things are going :lol:

organic wrote:
02 Mar 2023, 11:23
Can see a bit of underfloor sculpting here I think.
I think that's still the chassis bottom...
You got it right first as usual Vanja :D

https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-tanta-c ... r-la-sf-23

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Anyone manage to wrangle a better pic of the floor and confirm if it is indeed different to testing or not?