2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 03 - 05

[PhillipM]

Temperatures are high too, so they're all cooking tyres atm.

[chrisc90]

I will be very happy if Merc are only 3 tenths behind. Looked like it could have been much worse.

Theres still a good 2 seconds to come out of these times yet. We were at a 30.3 in testing, so itll likely be closer to 3 seconds to come off the current 32.340 time.

Let me have hope dammit

Apologies

Gifted it much hotter time of the day with the sun being up, so should see track temps from by 15c (i think that got mentioned yesterday) which should help the downforce.

[f1jcw]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

[Spoutnik]

Not looking good for Ferrari, even with Leclerc
Rookie mistake from Merc

[Cs98]

Wait RB used the hard tyre. That means they're going to use Soft-Hard-Soft in the race? whereas everyone else is saving 2 sets of hards

Sam Collins just reckoned the soft isnt going to last as long as people think and could well be a one stopper.

His predictions never come true. He's legitimately clueless especially when it comes to race strategy. Rewatch the Mexico GP with F1tv commentary to hear Sam Collins talk for half an hour about how Max HAS to pit again

I remember that. He makes these weird matter of fact statements sometimes that are just completely wrong. It's not "Max will probably stop again", it's "Max HAS to stop again".

[chrisc90]

Rookie error Merc not giving enough time for Lewis to get out of the pitlane for a practice start. I see no reason at all to leave it till the last millisecond to release from the garage.

[Mr.S]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He was right & was doing an outstanding job in a sub-par machinery in a team who achieved nothing except his 2 titles, but that team was busy talking about his age, his retirement, about him transitioning to Le Mans with Renault after 1 year left & had identified Piastri as a replacement. They should bought out Ocon's contract if need be to pair Alonso-Piastri & it was foolish to give him that big of a contract after he did well for 3-4 races when Alonso had returned.

Otmar is a joke & so is Rossi. They absolutely got what they deserved. Alonso told Ferrari he was leaving & look what it got - They announced Vettel before even Alonso's departure could be announced - This is a cut-throat world. Hamilton left a competitive Mclaren for more money to a mediocre Mercedes then & didn't care 1 bit about the team which raised him. This is how the world works - Welcome to life !

[Cs98]

I will be very happy if Merc are only 3 tenths behind. Looked like it could have been much worse.

yeah, you can build on that, plus it can be track dependent.

Second behind... erm

Ever since the final day of testing their one lap pace has looked decent, sort of 0,5s off. But the long run pace has been worrying, especially the deg.

[Redragon]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He gave them the time to propose a renew contract for months, even on Drive to Survive is shown that Otmar promises an offer on his birthday by late evening but didn't happen until the end of the weeked, 3 days later. If Alonso didn't sign for Alpine last year is because they didn't offer him the contract earlier, Alpine wanted 1 year, Alonso wanted at least 2. They were pushing him out and where you are not really wanted, what's the point to stay?

[Spoutnik]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He was right & was doing an outstanding job in a sub-par machinery in a team who achieved nothing except his 2 titles, but that team was busy talking about his age, his retirement, about him transitioning to Le Mans with Renault after 1 year left & had identified Piastri as a replacement. They should bought out Ocon's contract if need be to pair Alonso-Piastri & it was foolish to give him that big of a contract after he did well for 3-4 races when Alonso had returned.

Otmar is a joke & so is Rossi. They absolutely got what they deserved. Alonso told Ferrari he was leaving & look what it got - They announced Vettel before even Alonso's departure could be announced - This is a cut-throat world. Hamilton left a competitive Mclaren for more money to a mediocre Mercedes then & didn't care 1 bit about the team which raised him. This is how the world works - Welcome to life !

I'm sorry but even if he could have done it in a better way..
Alpine was treating Ocon like a world beater, and Fernando like the past. It was like Vettel/Leclerc in 2019 but it's Ocon and not Leclerc...

[f1jcw]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He was right & was doing an outstanding job in a sub-par machinery in a team who achieved nothing except his 2 titles, but that team was busy talking about his age, his retirement, about him transitioning to Le Mans with Renault after 1 year left & had identified Piastri as a replacement. They should bought out Ocon's contract if need be to pair Alonso-Piastri & it was foolish to give him that big of a contract after he did well for 3-4 races when Alonso had returned.

Otmar is a joke & so is Rossi. They absolutely got what they deserved. Alonso told Ferrari he was leaving & look what it got - They announced Vettel before even Alonso's departure could be announced - This is a cut-throat world. Hamilton left a competitive Mclaren for more money to a mediocre Mercedes then & didn't care 1 bit about the team which raised him. This is how the world works - Welcome to life !

Lewis didn't leave McLaren in the lurch, he just didn't renew his contract.

No it isn't the way the world works.

Only people who don't give a stuff and respect to others work that way, some people treat others how they expect themselves to be treated.

Renault accepted him back 2 other times after he'd burnt his bridges elsewhere by acting a usual self entitled dick.
and what did he do, treat with no respect yet again.
The team isn't just a team principle, it is thousands of other workers.

He's a great drive, but a --- person.

[PhillipM]

Hamilton left a competitive Mclaren for more money to a mediocre Mercedes then & didn't care 1 bit about the team which raised him.

That's massively misunderstanding the situation. Mercedes sponsored Hamilton all the way through Mclaren from him being picked up in karting to the end, the funding came through the HPE engines division just as much as Mclaren, Hamilton went with the team that had supported him.

[f1jcw]

I can't say I'm a big Alonso fan either, I still don't believe he didn't know about the cheating for his championship - but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy Rosberg insulting him, either.

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He gave them the time to propose a renew contract for months, even on Drive to Survive is shown that Otmar promises an offer on his birthday by late evening but didn't happen until the end of the weeked, 3 days later. If Alonso didn't sign for Alpine last year is because they didn't offer him the contract earlier, Alpine wanted 1 year, Alonso wanted at least 2. They were pushing him out and where you are not really wanted, what's the point to stay?

Pushing him out by offering 1 year?
That isn't pushing him out.

[Redragon]

My biggest grievance is with Renault,

I think even though they might be grumbles between, he owes that team hell of a lot, when he left last year (which is okay to do) he should have given them respect and due notice and let them know rather then do it cause them as much trouble as possible.

He gave them the time to propose a renew contract for months, even on Drive to Survive is shown that Otmar promises an offer on his birthday by late evening but didn't happen until the end of the weeked, 3 days later. If Alonso didn't sign for Alpine last year is because they didn't offer him the contract earlier, Alpine wanted 1 year, Alonso wanted at least 2. They were pushing him out and where you are not really wanted, what's the point to stay?

Pushing him out by offering 1 year?
That isn't pushing him out.

For a driver with the caliber of Alonso it is, where is he now with a decent car at 41 years old. The guy has great physic and still hungry. Alpine where treating him as the past offering just 1 year because they have other young driver to take his seat. That is pushing him out in my opinion

[chrisc90]

James Vowles speaking pretty well with Laura Winter about the outlook for the team.