2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 03 - 05

[Redragon]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

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Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Don't be too negative about AMR. Lest not forget that Alonso was a bit out of place in Qualy already and had a terrible first lap.
I fully expect him to be the main contender for RB for the next couple of races - the rest depends on in-season-development which favours AMR heavily as well.

I expect more from AM when they bring the first upgrade if they have catch all this time during winter, it is optimistic to think the upgrade could bring them even closer

[BorisTheBlade]

Nothing else of note really. Midfield towards the back very boring and no real interest. Abysmal from McLaren.

Yup, Mclaren is bringing their brand into shame. Also horrible race from Ocon

Also , Hulkenberg great quali, terrible race. Gasly terrible quali great race

Admittedly, Hulk had a lot of bad luck. The FW incident was a matter of centimetres. The exchange was bad in its own way.

[chrisc90]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

VER-----+0.6-----LEC


Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Don't be too negative about AMR. Lest not forget that Alonso was a bit out of place in Qualy already and had a terrible first lap.
I fully expect him to be the main contender for RB for the next couple of races - the rest depends on in-season-development which favours AMR heavily as well.

Nothing negative about them at all. Just looking back over the stints. I know they were out of position on the first lap. its quite clear they arent 0.8 to red bull. Id probably put them on par with Ferrari to race pace.

[AR3-GP]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

VER-----+0.6-----LEC


Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Alonso was being slowed by the Mercedes big time.

[Redragon]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

VER-----+0.6-----LEC


Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Don't be too negative about AMR. Lest not forget that Alonso was a bit out of place in Qualy already and had a terrible first lap.
I fully expect him to be the main contender for RB for the next couple of races - the rest depends on in-season-development which favours AMR heavily as well.

Nothing negative about them at all. Just looking back over the stints. I know they were out of position on the first lap. its quite clear they arent 0.8 to red bull. Id probably put them on par with Ferrari to race pace.

I think on the second stint when thins stabilise, AM was slightly faster that Ferrari on race pace,

[organic]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

VER-----+0.6-----LEC


Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Alonso was being slowed by the Mercedes big time.

And max was driving to a delta in every stint lol. We're never going to see the full picture

[AR3-GP]

Lap times are up for comparison.

https://i.imgur.com/ZW2kF2g.jpg

VER-----+0.6-----LEC


Id probably say the AMR about 0.2 faster than the Merc. Merc about a second back on RB.

Alonso was being slowed by the Mercedes big time.

And max was driving to a delta in every stint lol. We're never going to see the full picture

Absolutely agree. Imo, Fernando could have beaten Leclerc in a straight fight, but wouldn't have enough for Max and maybe not Perez.

[aral]

I admit i was not watching too closely due to lack of action, but i noticed that the mclaren appeared to have a light on its nose that turned from red to green. was that part of the warning system for the car being "live"?

[Bisonas]

Could alonso have gotten close to leclerc ?

Leclerc i think was running 12 seconds in front of Sainz when he retired running in 3rd behind the red bulls.

TBH i think Alonso could had reached the back of Leclerc by the end (with the race pace he had on the C1) but i don't know if he could have passed him.

If he hadn't end up behind the 2 MERC at the start IMO he would have easily ended up P3 even if Lec hadn't retired and i believe that if he had managed to clear Sainz at the start running at p4 after the 1st lap he could have been battling Perez for P2 at the end.

Alonso 2-3 laps after passing sainz, he also started cruising. He was avoiding kerbs and the team asked him to slow down on some corners. He was matching the red bull in their cruise mode. Top 3 where just cruising.

[chrisc90]

2nd stint.



Much more representative I think. AMR much better deg than the Fer, especially after bringing the tyres in a bit easier.

The RB soft tyre deg over that stint should be seriously worrying for anyone going forwards. 1:37.6 consistently on the soft over 19-20 laps. Whilst the Ferrari seen around 0.7-1second of deg on the hard over the same distance.
*not taking into account traffic/battles/overtakes etc.

[ironben88]

Does anyone know if the FIA monitor track limits on corner entry? Hamilton appeared to be right on the limit for lap 51 at turn 4 and turn 8 and it made me wonder.

Hulk got attention for track limits so they were monitoring, if Hamilton didn't get punishment is because was on the limits of the track

Is that for corner entry, corner exit or both? I was just referring to corner entry.

[Redragon]

Does anyone know if the FIA monitor track limits on corner entry? Hamilton appeared to be right on the limit for lap 51 at turn 4 and turn 8 and it made me wonder.

Hulk got attention for track limits so they were monitoring, if Hamilton didn't get punishment is because was on the limits of the track

Is that for corner entry, corner exit or both? I was just referring to corner entry.

I meant they were monitoring as Hulk got attention and flag for track limits during the race, now if they did blind eye that's other matter

[AR3-GP]

2nd stint.

https://i.imgur.com/OEqVcdb.jpg

Much more representative I think. AMR much better deg than the Fer, especially after bringing the tyres in a bit easier.

The RB soft tyre deg over that stint should be seriously worrying for anyone going forwards. 1:37.6 consistently on the soft over 19-20 laps. Whilst the Ferrari seen around 0.7-1second of deg on the hard over the same distance.
*not taking into account traffic/battles/overtakes etc.

Rb's runs on the soft tire were pure trolling

Other teams couldn't wait to get onto the hard tire and still had deg issues. RB could have 2 stopped with softs the entire way.

[Artur Craft]

Merc miles away agree that we wont see them compete for a title untill 2026.

AM was the worst car here, last year, together with Williams. And look where they are now, it´s tottally possible to massively improve you car

I know it’s difficult for Red Bull fans to accept that Newey didn’t manage to produce a good car during 2014-2021! Even with the rule change on floors (which was only put in place to hurt Mercedes) he didn’t manage to get the Constructors championship!

Newey didn´t manage to produce a good car? Ok then, and also agree that Renault and Honda engines were 100 HP more powerful than Mercedes(Ferrari 200 HP more)

Is there some grand concept to change? lol. This whole "concept" talk is just journalist talk to average fans. They are in the top 4. Every team that's not RB need a "concept" change lol.

Yup. Merc is a good/decent car, it´s just not great as RB.

[214270]

Does anyone know if the FIA monitor track limits on corner entry? Hamilton appeared to be right on the limit for lap 51 at turn 4 and turn 8 and it made me wonder.

Hulk got attention for track limits so they were monitoring, if Hamilton didn't get punishment is because was on the limits of the track

Is that for corner entry, corner exit or both? I was just referring to corner entry.

They monitor corner exit. They really only tend to regulate corner entry with kerbs where reqd, the assumption being it’s prob net -ve to be out that wide anyway.