2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 17 - 19

[Sevach]

Russell is quite dramatic. The Mclaren was well offline.

If he saw some of the blocks we witnessed today he wouldn't complain.

[AR3-GP]

Hulk is faster*! Why is Hulk so much faster than Kmag this season

Every time Hulk hopped in a car to replace another driver he immediately was faster than his teammate.
He’s a great driver, I really appreciate his skills!

Very fast in one lap, but his race pace leaves a lot to be desired, which is one of the reasons why he doesn't have a podium to his name.

Wasn't the issue that he'd make a blunder when he was in a good position? I remember him wrecking the force india in Brazil many many years ago, as well as chucking the Renault of the road in Hockenheim.

[AR3-GP]

Hmm, so it looks like Verstappen did the race run on softs, while the others (Perez, Alonso, etc) did them on mediums.

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Hmm, so it looks like Verstappen did the race run on softs, while the others (Perez, Alonso, etc) did them on mediums.

Sainz did an 8-lap ish race run on softs at the same time as Max. Sainz was keeping up with Max for the first part of the stint but the pace fell away a bit towards the end

Don't think a huge amount can be taken from the laptimes of these race runs here compared to other tracks.. seems like most were driving to a target laptime and doing as much tyre management whilst targeting the laptime; we won't know how successful each team were at managing the tyres until they do a full stint length in the race really

[Hammerfist]

Every time Hulk hopped in a car to replace another driver he immediately was faster than his teammate.
He’s a great driver, I really appreciate his skills!

Very fast in one lap, but his race pace leaves a lot to be desired, which is one of the reasons why he doesn't have a podium to his name.

Wasn't the issue that he'd make a blunder when he was in a good position? I remember him wrecking the force india in Brazil many many years ago, as well as chucking the Renault of the road in Hockenheim.

Yeah he hit Lewis in Brazil 2012 when he was on for the win. But that's besides the fact, when he was teammate with Sergio, you could really see a deficiency in race pace and tire management. But yeah the mistakes are part of his lack of success.

[Sieper]

Hulk also ran into the barrier in Baku once while running on a podium finish place.

[AR3-GP]

Hmm, so it looks like Verstappen did the race run on softs, while the others (Perez, Alonso, etc) did them on mediums.

Sainz did an 8-lap ish race run on softs at the same time as Max. Sainz was keeping up with Max for the first part of the stint but the pace fell away a bit towards the end

Don't think a huge amount can be taken from the laptimes of these race runs here compared to other tracks.. seems like most were driving to a target laptime and doing as much tyre management whilst targeting the laptime; we won't know how successful each team were at managing the tyres until they do a full stint length in the race really

Verstappen was also complaining about bad downshifts during his run.

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[AR3-GP]

Very fast in one lap, but his race pace leaves a lot to be desired, which is one of the reasons why he doesn't have a podium to his name.

Wasn't the issue that he'd make a blunder when he was in a good position? I remember him wrecking the force india in Brazil many many years ago, as well as chucking the Renault of the road in Hockenheim.

Yeah he hit Lewis in Brazil 2012 when he was on for the win. But that's besides the fact, when he was teammate with Sergio, you could really see a deficiency in race pace and tire management. But yeah the mistakes are part of his lack of success.

I recall Nico saying he "hated" tire management.

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Alpine were quick in the traps in fp1 and now slow in fp2 despite being pretty quick over 1 lap. some sandbagging is taking place from everyone I'm sure

[mkay]

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Nuts how RB can be amongst the fastest teams yet generate so much downforce. The RB19 is a phenomenal car.

[Cs98]

Higher DF, but the question is for which drag penalty. It probably produces more DF with less drag by flexing more.

The flexing is strictly regulated nowadays, doubt there is much of any vertical flex in that wing. The main-plane is clearly more squared off, which would suggest slightly more downforce for slightly more drag. They might compensate for that with a weaker beam wing, but I doubt Ferrari will be hitting 340 come quali.

What’s the purpose of the single pillar in your opinion? And why would they opt for a higher DF rear wing than in Bahrain?

Freeing up the underside of the wing to increase downforce, reducing weight...

They obviously wanted to run this wing in Bahrain but it wasn't working. It's still a medium downforce wing and Jeddah is not really a low downforce track, more like medium-low.

[AR3-GP]

Quick and dirty race run snapshot from FP2:



Perez's medium tire run is very competitive. You figure the medium is just the better race tire when you look at Max's pace, although Max's run isn't terrible, you'd expect him to have a margin on the same tire as Perez.

[atanatizante]

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1. Low deg on this track
2. Easy S-M one-stop race
3. VER easy win: he did 14 laps on a used set of soft tyres lapping at the start of the stint on low 1.35 then on mid 1.35 at the end of the stint. For sure his lap times were always done at a delta time. He got lots of speed in his pocket, running in a lower PU mode or just had a heavier car.
4. ALO was very impressive in his 14-lap sim race on old medium tyres. Like VER he was just running constantly at a low 1.35 than mid 1.35, maybe having a higher PU mode or a slightly lighter car. He also was very slow in the top speed trap and was the best driver in the first sector.
5. PER was the black horse for setting some interesting lap times and clearly was pushing hard at the end of the stint.
6. Alpine drivers had very good lap times on both tyres, maybe they were running with less fuel and higher PU modes.
7. Ferrari drivers are very hard to read. Seems that they were doing lots of testing further.
8. Merc drivers the same as above.

[AR3-GP]

Fwiw, there is still quite a bit of sandbagging going on. Opening stint of the race last year was mid 34s from Perez. The cars are faster this year than last year...Especially the RB...