2023 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 31 - April 02

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avantman
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Re: 2023 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 31 - April 02

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What a sh*t show honestly. Complete waste of time on Sunday. It seems like the FIA are told what to do directly from Domenicalli office these days.

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A farce

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Zynerji
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11 WDC trophies on that podium. That s probably a record.😏

Vinlarr89
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Absolute Farce. FIA give nothing for tapping out Leclerc, and then give Sainz 5 seconds behind a safety car finish. Horrendous decisions

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What's so difficult about saying "race has ended these are the results".

Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.

ENGINE TUNER
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Vinlarr89 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:40
Absolute Farce. FIA give nothing for tapping out Leclerc, and then give Sainz 5 seconds behind a safety car finish. Horrendous decisions
LEC caused the collision, stroll should not be penalized for that contact. Watch it again

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Re: 2023 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 31 - April 02

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Perez 341 kmh on back straight. Probably a record on this track.

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Sevach wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:41
Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.
It's hardly for the FIA to predict the drivers being unable to restart cleanly! :)

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Sevach wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:41
What's so difficult about saying "race has ended these are the results".

Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.
Well based on the previous timings, both Alpines would have been in the points which would have been even more strange given they were both a pile of parts at turn 2!

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The race was done by the rule book, so no complaining from my side. Mistakes are taken by some drivers. A interesting race, much thinking by the end (rule book). Sainz penalty a bit harsh.

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Stig14 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:44
Sevach wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:41
What's so difficult about saying "race has ended these are the results".

Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.
Well based on the previous timings, both Alpines would have been in the points which would have been even more strange given they were both a pile of parts at turn 2!
It's convention that on a red flag countback, broken cars are awarded the result from their position from the previous lap. :)

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The restart was in my opinion forced because Max had 2 bad starts allready and race control probably hoped he starts badly again, and with that they would manage to get more interesting end of the race. What they got was good start from Max and carnage at the back which was to be expected. The only good thing from this for me (and i dont want to be mean) is that Ocon and Gasly tangled with each other, two drivers which are experts at punting other drivers off the track. I guess they are going to be at war with each other from now on.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Stig14 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:44
Sevach wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:41
What's so difficult about saying "race has ended these are the results".

Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.
Well based on the previous timings, both Alpines would have been in the points which would have been even more strange given they were both a pile of parts at turn 2!
It has happened before, when Alonso hit Webber in Brazil 2003, cars absolutely wrecked, the race was called, results from 2 laps before were validated.
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JordanMugen wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:45
Stig14 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:44
Sevach wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 09:41
What's so difficult about saying "race has ended these are the results".

Funny that they went for maximum entertainment and ended up with maximum anti-climax.
Well based on the previous timings, both Alpines would have been in the points which would have been even more strange given they were both a pile of parts at turn 2!
It's convention that on a red flag countback, broken cars are awarded the result from their position from the previous lap. :)
it was, years ago, but I didn't think it still existed. After the big crash of Grosjean in Bahrain (?) they sorted cars based on the last mini-sector order, at least.

Edit: here are the current rules, from the 2023 sporting regulations:

"In all cases the order will be taken at the last point at which it was possible to determine the position of all cars. All such cars will then be permitted to resume the sprint session or the race."

So imo the one they finished with is clearly incorrect.
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KimiRai
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People are saying there is evidence Max was wrongly positioned for the last restart. If so that's a penalty 100%