They didn't build on this car because was raised by 15 cm and the whole aerodinamic of the car has changed,from the front wing,the floor,sidepods,rear wing,etc so lets not forget that this concept was abandoned like 5 months ago!
michl420 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 10:40Every bad day they say here the team is lost. The bad points should be adressed but not reped to death, it´s tiring.
I think today they fell out of there temperatur window (Tires) and Norris can`t put it together, also bacause of the issues in P3.
So that someone also talks about the good things.
Good low speed performance. I don`t think we are that far in the front like this last graph suggest, but in the front area. (This can be seen from last year on, although some here rant about the HUGE alleged understeer problem (sarcasm)).
Visually in my opinion one of the most stable aero platforms from the suspension side.
Very good braking performance.
The car looks on the upperside very much like a Red Bull, which is certainly not terrible this year.
These are things that have been achieved by the team.
Perhaps the only weak point is the floor, which is of course the worst, but can be fixed. And that's exactly what the team has been talking about since the start of the season. And what Aston Martin has done and how tight the field this year is give me hope that a big leap is possible.
I'm not blind to the situation the team is in and i'm disapprove them for it, but i'm not blind to the good things either.
My point of view.
All good points but not every week because it's getting tiresome!djos wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 13:01Expressing one’s frustration that the car is slower, relatively speaking, than last year’s car is entirely valid. Yes we know a better car is coming, However, last year the Singapore car was supposed to be a big step forward, and yet wasn’t.Ben1980 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 12:35Criticism is fine. But pointless Criticism is, we'll pointless.
Just saying its slow, it's rubbish, etc is just pointless. Especially when the team have explained the plan and understood a problem.
Now, if towards the end of the season nothing has changed, that's a different matter.
I think you are exaggerating a bit. It is 15mm and not 15cm. Yes that raise of height affected us a lot mainly in the floor area. I don't see how it could affect the rear wing though...MTudor wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 17:39They didn't build on this car because was raised by 15 cm and the whole aerodinamic of the car has changed,from the front wing,the floor,sidepods,rear wing,etc so lets not forget that this concept was abandoned like 5 months ago!
I'm tired when our own fans keep "forgeting" about this aspect!!!
To be fair, Perez was passing “everyone” even when the other driver had DRS too… So not a great reference pointhaza wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 10:02it’s astonishing even with drs open it was getting passed easily makes you wonder how the cars so draggy in the first place101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 09:58Yep the areas it was deficient in last year have certainly been upgraded but it comes with one hell of a drag penalty
It's their job to do soDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 15:21You know it's not the first time Haas has protested a result. Sounds to me like sore losers.
I was in a hurry and typed cm not mm,but thanks.kfrantzios wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 18:07I think you are exaggerating a bit. It is 15mm and not 15cm. Yes that raise of height affected us a lot mainly in the floor area. I don't see how it could affect the rear wing though...MTudor wrote: ↑02 Apr 2023, 17:39They didn't build on this car because was raised by 15 cm and the whole aerodinamic of the car has changed,from the front wing,the floor,sidepods,rear wing,etc so lets not forget that this concept was abandoned like 5 months ago!
I'm tired when our own fans keep "forgeting" about this aspect!!!
