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The problem is therefore to be found in the nonlinear reactions of the individual elements. With a higher imposed load, the suspensive response is not the desired one and, consequently, the position of the bottom does not remain within the range estimated by the project. To this must be added the endemic lack of vertical thrust, accentuated by the need to further unload the car to limit the speed gap that the SF-23 suffers on Red Bull, a super efficient car in aerodynamic terms.
Well, i hope they are not only run on Friday and then disappear into oblivion.jambuka wrote: ↑03 May 2023, 16:05New sidepods in Miami
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Let's put it this way - it's quite common at Ferrari for the bosses to interfere in technical development and demand things that are anything but clever. Not only do they often mess up the technical development and the development plan (which is also the reason why Ferrari is generally at a disadvantage in development during the season compared to other top teams), but they also put the engineers in a stupid situation. What is an engineer supposed to do now? Do something that is actually, as he knows, not useful for the vehicle? Or just ignore it, which makes him vulnerable, because if others notice it and report it, his position or even his job is in danger. On the other hand, if he follows this and the car ultimately becomes worse or one loses direction in development, it is the same. This is what you have to deal with at Ferrari and what happens there unfortunately. There was a time when that didn't happen, when Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne came in and stopped that, as well as the politics in the whole engineering department, which was ultimately headed by Rory, who in turn reported to Ross. Rory didn't tolerate any politics, he didn't have a political bone in his body, all that mattered was the performance of the car, same with Ross. But they could only do this because, on the one hand, their contracts stated that they had full technical responsibility and, on the other hand, because Michael Schumacher would have left immediately if Ross or Rory had been dismissed. Therefore Montezemolo and Co. had no choice but to stay out of it when Ross demanded it (which he did). Before this era it was quite different. Likewise afterwards. Almost on a weekly basis, people like Vigna interfere. Binotto and Sanchez actually wanted to give the SF-23 a completely different development focus.deadhead wrote: ↑28 Apr 2023, 22:27So he just couldn't handle being outdone on the straight by a Honda powered car? That's really shortsighted.Andi76 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2023, 17:47I think this can be explained quite well by the development history of the SF-23, at least if the rumors I have heard are true, and it would make sense. Binotto and Sanchez wanted the SF-23 to continue in the same direction as the F1-75. However, which is said to have been one of the reasons for Binotto's falling out with Vigna and also for Sanchez's decision to leave, Vigna must have interfered (a very normal practice at Ferrari since 2007 and before 1996) in the development and demanded lower drag. A Ferrari was not likely to be outrun by a Red Bull on the straights. This messed up a lot of the SF-23 and downforce was sacrificed in favor of drag, hence Vigna's "from the fastest Ferrari" comment at the presentation. I think there was a turnaround (and Vigna made it happen based on the results) and they went after downforce, as Sanchez and Binotto actually wanted, which brought the SF-23 and its concept back into balance. The fact that they went back to Rory Byrne six weeks ago and are listening to him again certainly helps. So everything would fit together. But first we'll have to wait and see.dialtone wrote: ↑28 Apr 2023, 16:33Fact is, LEC got on pole thanks to S2 and a very good S1. Both of those sectors are the slower stuff where traction means a lot, this was NOT the case in Bahrain. There's reason to really believe Ferrari found something to improve the car over the break via improvements in setup because their S3 is equally strong as RBR.
Will it be enough for the race? Before seeing telemetry or any race sim I highly doubt it, but that should put them clear 2nd best car.
EDIT: SAI on the other hand is pretty inexcusable right now and given LEC's rumors of looking for some leverage for new contract negotiation I wouldn't risk losing a guy that is so much faster in quali/race on average.
It requires quite a bit of power at top speed to generate an extra "3-4km/h". Drag is the biggest factor in top speeds. I know that you know this VanjaVanja #66 wrote: ↑03 May 2023, 21:36Rivals feel Ferrari “not always pushing PU to maximum” amid possible reliability concerns
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Baku Top Speeds seem to indeed prove this, especially compared to Jeddah results, where the car had a massively oversized rear wing this year.
https://i.ibb.co/7R5gtkV/2022-23-baku-q.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VHyVGSn/2022-23-jeddah-q.jpg
With power available in Jeddah, Ferrari would have had at least 3-4kmh more in Baku Q and poof - no one would be talking about RB mighty DRS
what good is a pu that constantly needs turning down? at some point you gotta take it run with it, and results that come out of it are valid. if that ferrari pu can run at those +3-4 kmh but only for 2 or 3 races then you can't call that power level a baseline, can you?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑03 May 2023, 21:36Rivals feel Ferrari “not always pushing PU to maximum” amid possible reliability concerns
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Baku Top Speeds seem to indeed prove this, especially compared to Jeddah results, where the car had a massively oversized rear wing this year.
https://i.ibb.co/7R5gtkV/2022-23-baku-q.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/VHyVGSn/2022-23-jeddah-q.jpg
With power available in Jeddah, Ferrari would have had at least 3-4kmh more in Baku Q and poof - no one would be talking about RB mighty DRS
Isn't Wolf Zimmerman in charge of 2026 PU as well ?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 May 2023, 06:40https://media1.giphy.com/media/E1dZTkbm ... .webp&ct=g
It's becoming increasingly clear Binotto's team did only one good thing - aerodynamic development. Seeing how much the suspenion design is still lacking shows they basically lucked into good setup range before TD39, otherwise they would have been able to repeat that with little issues. On the PU side, no words at all...
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The Cavallino therefore went on to counterattack. And the target is obviously Red Bull's top engineers. But the attempt so far does not appear to have been successful.
There was an assault on the Piedmontese Enrico Balbo, aerodynamics chief of Red Bull, but the negotiations would have
immediately stopped due to the latter's refusal to leave Milton Keynes.
In addition, Pierre Waché, the technical director of the world champion team, was contacted. But even in this case the proposal would have been rejected.
More engineers are arriving at Ferrari, but they would be mid-level figures, such as the twenty who recruited Mattia Binotto last year (also from Red Bull) and who are now already working in Maranello. In any case, the new ones, when they sign, will be required to observe a break before being able to take up service at Ferrari, due to the "non-competition" clauses included in the contracts. It will therefore take some time before the reinforcement plan takes shape completely, provided that it goes through.