2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Another crash from Chaz? At what point does this become recognised as an issue?

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Mogster wrote:
06 May 2023, 11:02
Another crash from Chaz? At what point does this become recognised as an issue?
I think many already knew it was an issue. Undeniably quick, but it has always come with these moments. Binned it during his Sauber days, and in the Ferrari at Imola, France, Mexico City and yesterday. I’m sure there are more examples.

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chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 09:56
Just_a_fan wrote:
06 May 2023, 01:52
chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 00:45
Max checked out and on the way to Imola. :lol:
Dominant car. Or does that not apply when it's Max?

RB built a good car. Nout wrong with that. It’s a good chance that the RB19 isn’t even the fastest car over 1 lap. The Ferrari seems to have better pace over 1 lap - especially when you look at pole positions since the start of the era.


Funny that all the people complaining now werent the ones who were complaining for however many years at the start of then hybrid era where Mercedes had even more pace/dominance.
Stretching again are we? In 3 out of 4 races the RB19 took pole pretty convincingly, and it’s not even only one driver who dominates. In the races there is absolutely no match, not even close, despite Ferrari closing in somewhat on one lap pace.

It’s only natural that people complain when their team is not winning anymore. But let’s not pretend that the Red Bull drivers aren’t enjoying the same benefits as the Mercedes drivers did when they won.

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Tvetovnato wrote:
06 May 2023, 12:25
chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 09:56
Just_a_fan wrote:
06 May 2023, 01:52


Dominant car. Or does that not apply when it's Max?

RB built a good car. Nout wrong with that. It’s a good chance that the RB19 isn’t even the fastest car over 1 lap. The Ferrari seems to have better pace over 1 lap - especially when you look at pole positions since the start of the era.


Funny that all the people complaining now werent the ones who were complaining for however many years at the start of then hybrid era where Mercedes had even more pace/dominance.
Stretching again are we? In 3 out of 4 races the RB19 took pole pretty convincingly, and it’s not even only one driver who dominates. In the races there is absolutely no match, not even close, despite Ferrari closing in somewhat on one lap pace.

It’s only natural that people complain when their team is not winning anymore. But let’s not pretend that the Red Bull drivers aren’t enjoying the same benefits as the Mercedes drivers did when they won.
They clearly aren’t. At least not last year. This year it seems the car is indeed the best, 4 races in. but then again, Max already had to endure the car stopping on track during Jeddah qualy, Mercedes was rock solid.

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Tvetovnato wrote:
06 May 2023, 12:25

Stretching again are we? In 3 out of 4 races the RB19 took pole pretty convincingly, and it’s not even only one driver who dominates. In the races there is absolutely no match, not even close, despite Ferrari closing in somewhat on one lap pace.

It’s only natural that people complain when their team is not winning anymore. But let’s not pretend that the Red Bull drivers aren’t enjoying the same benefits as the Mercedes drivers did when they won.
The RB19 is the fastest car, but not by the margins that Merc. had. If we look at the dominant era of Merc. they did not only win the races, but also the poles. That is already a clear difference.

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DDopey wrote:
06 May 2023, 13:14
Tvetovnato wrote:
06 May 2023, 12:25

Stretching again are we? In 3 out of 4 races the RB19 took pole pretty convincingly, and it’s not even only one driver who dominates. In the races there is absolutely no match, not even close, despite Ferrari closing in somewhat on one lap pace.

It’s only natural that people complain when their team is not winning anymore. But let’s not pretend that the Red Bull drivers aren’t enjoying the same benefits as the Mercedes drivers did when they won.
The RB19 is the fastest car, but not by the margins that Merc. had. If we look at the dominant era of Merc. they did not only win the races, but also the poles. That is already a clear difference.
Using the qualifying pace as an indicator for dominance would work fine if we had a qualifying championship, which we haven’t. The F2002 for example was one of the most dominant cars in history, but was regularly outqualified, five times in a row mid season, but demolished all cars in the races. Similar story for RB this year, and most of last year.

Anyways, side tracking from the thread, sorry to the mods…

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It matters zero if a car won by 40 seconds versus 20 seconds, 18 races in a season vs 15 races, took 15 poles vs 10 poles. Being on the lower side of those numbers still makes it very easy for you to take the championship or ”check out”. Tired of all double standards.

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DGP123 wrote:
05 May 2023, 11:22
RB fans biggest worry right now, is not the competition, but the colour of the livery, and if they like it or not.
This Miami one is lovely, don´t you agree?

Btw, I´m interested in knowing whether there will be on-track action today so, how´s the wheater right now? Will there be any rain today or tomorrow?

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Artur Craft wrote:
06 May 2023, 14:44
DGP123 wrote:
05 May 2023, 11:22
RB fans biggest worry right now, is not the competition, but the colour of the livery, and if they like it or not.
This Miami one is lovely, don´t you agree?

Btw, I´m interested in knowing whether there will be on-track action today so, how´s the wheater right now? Will there be any rain today or tomorrow?
There are different weather forecasts. Although the probability has been reduced, a storm is still possible. It would be the worst considering the current temperatures and that the asphalt is new. If the grease from the asphalt appears and a storm comes... In any case, the dirt on the track still seems to me the greatest risk even if there is no storm.
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Otromundo wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:04
Artur Craft wrote:
06 May 2023, 14:44
DGP123 wrote:
05 May 2023, 11:22
RB fans biggest worry right now, is not the competition, but the colour of the livery, and if they like it or not.
This Miami one is lovely, don´t you agree?

Btw, I´m interested in knowing whether there will be on-track action today so, how´s the wheater right now? Will there be any rain today or tomorrow?
There are different weather forecasts. Although the probability has been reduced, a storm is still possible. It would be the worst considering the current temperatures and that the asphalt is new. If the grease from the asphalt appears and a storm comes... In any case, the dirt on the track still seems to me the greatest risk even if there is no storm.
It really should be cleaned up a bit with the support categories.
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Can anyone tell so that I don't need to scroll down to much...how did race sims went in second part of fp2?
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GoranF1 wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:10
Can anyone tell so that I don't need to scroll down to much...how did race sims went in second part of fp2?
I think the most a team done was 9 laps. Unsure why, but possibly better weather for representative conditions today in FP3.
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chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:11
GoranF1 wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:10
Can anyone tell so that I don't need to scroll down to much...how did race sims went in second part of fp2?
I think the most a team done was 9 laps. Unsure why, but possibly better weather for representative conditions today in FP3.
because Leclerc brought out the red flag.
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AR3-GP wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:11
chrisc90 wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:11
GoranF1 wrote:
06 May 2023, 15:10
Can anyone tell so that I don't need to scroll down to much...how did race sims went in second part of fp2?
I think the most a team done was 9 laps. Unsure why, but possibly better weather for representative conditions today in FP3.
because Leclerc brought out the red flag.
Together with that one :D :lol:
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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is the live timing working for anyone?

edit: working now
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