Ferrari F60

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RacingManiac
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Likely gold foil at the back of the seat to reflect heat, considering the engine is right behind him...

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Metar
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Perhaps gold-plated for thermal conductivity reasons? The McLaren F1 (roadcar) had such a thing on the engine.

Interesting that it's not entirely symmetrical, though.

wesley123
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Yep it is for isolation, mclarne have actually covered the whole bodywork from the inside with it, the whole engine cover has gold inside.
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siskue2005
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WOW after all these years i never knew they had gold on their seats
Thank u guys for enlightening me on this subject =D>

RacingManiac
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Metar wrote:Perhaps gold-plated for thermal conductivity reasons? The McLaren F1 (roadcar) had such a thing on the engine.

Interesting that it's not entirely symmetrical, though.
Not sure how well carbon fibre works in a plating process...McLaren F1's gold is around the engine bay, not the engine itself. Same idea though.

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siskue2005 wrote:WOW after all these years i never knew they had gold on their seats
Thank u guys for enlightening me on this subject =D>
We have our CF seats gold-plated where the engine is, in our formula SAE car.

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Why gold?
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andreas4
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Because gold is the best heat reflector. And the price doesn't matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXUPU4O00f4

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OT question regarding "underpants protection"

Is gold better than silver? Silver has always been on my list as the best electricity and heat conducting element, which I suppose is the key point for heat reflection (abrupt change in conductivities). Wikipedia confirms that silver is a better thermal conductor than gold, although carbon (in diamond form) is much better.

I know that gold is used in several places as radiation protection (EA-6B prowler for electronic warfare, F-16 canopy, windows in all space ships), but I always interpreted that malleability was the main reason (i.e. you can protect a window with gold without losing too much visibility)
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andreas4
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It is not about heat conductivity but about heat reflection, i.e. light-reflectivity in the IR-range. At our institute, we used gold-plated mirrors for the IR-thermography cameras...

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andreas4 wrote:It is not about heat conductivity but about heat reflection, i.e. light-reflectivity in the IR-range. At our institute, we used gold-plated mirrors for the IR-thermography cameras...
Thanks for the tip. I'll try to do some "homework" to see the differences between gold and silver.

EDIT: I suppose one could arrange then a multilayer coating similar to high quality mirrors and lenses in order to further improve heat reflectivity. Or am I pushing things a tad too far?
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

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Miguel wrote:I suppose one could arrange then a multilayer coating similar to high quality mirrors and lenses in order to further improve heat reflectivity. Or am I pushing things a tad too far?
Because you aim at IR range every layer should be sufficiently thick, and multilayer coating might become somewhat cumbersome. But I don't see why same general principle shouldn't work.

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zgred
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A new element at the rear of the endplates?