Toto has said recently in an interview that 5 tenths of a second would be too much to expect from one upgrade package.
As far as I'm aware, the main expectation of the upgrade is for them to transition into this new development direction and less about a massive sudden gain.
Shovlin: In Bahrain we realized that the package would not make us fight for the world championship. What we will bring to the track in Imola is the first step (in terms of driveability). Hopefully it will be faster, it will be better in terms of qualifying and race pace. The key thing though is that we're not just trying to bring a lap time upgrade, we're trying to go in a different development direction. That we think gives us a better chance in the long run.
It has already been demonstrated a mid-wing is not compatible with undercut.. another feature of the zeropod is the inlet running to the floor which prevents undercut. so the features that make it the 'zeropod' also preclude it from having undercut; yet you expect it to be zeropod with undercut.. how so?
Would that even be possible with the height of the current side pod? It runs from the SIS all the way to the floor.
The internals were the same and it was just a different bodywork panel over the top
Why are you inventing things now? Have you modelled this?organic wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 19:35It has already been demonstrated a mid-wing is not compatible with undercut.. another feature of the zeropod is the inlet running to the floor which prevents undercut. so the features that make it the 'zeropod' also preclude it from having undercut; yet you expect it to be zeropod with undercut.. how so?
The reg prohibit them using any other angle on the face of the zeropod/pod. Any sidepod would have the use the volume behind the area dedicated to the side pods.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 21:19Why are you inventing things now? Have you modelled this?organic wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 19:35It has already been demonstrated a mid-wing is not compatible with undercut.. another feature of the zeropod is the inlet running to the floor which prevents undercut. so the features that make it the 'zeropod' also preclude it from having undercut; yet you expect it to be zeropod with undercut.. how so?
What? It's been discussed at length (not just on this forum) since the w13 pods were revealed that an undercut whilst keeping broadly the same sidepod philosophy would be in breach of the stringent rules in the sidepod regulatory volume..PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 21:19Why are you inventing things now? Have you modelled this?organic wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 19:35It has already been demonstrated a mid-wing is not compatible with undercut.. another feature of the zeropod is the inlet running to the floor which prevents undercut. so the features that make it the 'zeropod' also preclude it from having undercut; yet you expect it to be zeropod with undercut.. how so?
Undercut does not have to happen near the mid-wing. It can start afterward and sweep outward to scoop air sideways over the floor edges.
We've had this discussion with you already a month ago. You were told then that it's not possible. It's been explained above again that it's not possible.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑14 May 2023, 00:32Not everyone is strong at spacial manipulation or 3D modelling. It is an ability that a few (of us)out of thousands possess.
You guys are struggling to see how an undercut would work with a zero pod within the rules no less, but I have the image in my mind already. Just a bit of creatifty is required to get the outwash effect near the floor that is needed. The side pod wing has nothing to do with getting this shape. The shape can be blended AFTER the side pod wing. And it will be there with the side pod wings in Imola.
