2023 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 30 - July 02

[vorticism]

What happened with Perez?

Once we see the tinfoil and/or neon pink & green, we'll know it

Albert Fabrega spotted him in the paddock earlier:

[langedweil]

Some Max fanatic setting off flares when they are banned.

Is that you chrisc90??

Once we see the tinfoil and/or neon pink & green, we'll know it

[Juzh]

Classic leclerc.. Sainz had better pace all weekend and in Q3 Leclerc comes alive and almost grabs pole

Those final 2 corners looked spetacular from the outside, car absolutely on the edge, hopefully someone (Juzh) can find us the onboard.

Good evolution for Ferrari and Mclaren.

Maybe later today and if not, then tomorrow.

[chrisc90]

Haha, not at the track today unfortunately. The schedule didn’t allow it. There tomorrow and Sunday!

What a qualifying though ! Massive upgrade for McLaren/Norris, putting it ahead of the mercs.

Perez needs to learn to get a banker in, really screwing himself over with silly errors.

So overall normal service in team orders with McLaren seemingly putting one ahead of the merc, but be interesting come race pace.
I think the merc comments that they were a tenth ahead of Ferrari were Massively optimistic

[Sieper]

After the tracklimits shenanigans Q3 was golden. Good qualy.

Ferrari back up there, those last corners by Charles, wow. Norris showing his talent again. Alo losing to stroll second time. Hmm.

[Just_a_fan]

Are a joke. Shouldn't be this game of centimeters.

The walls of Monaco and Baku are millimeters, so I see no issue. The track is the track, off the track is off.

Nah, it's not the same. Some puny white lines can't hold same significance as solid walls or gravel, I dont care what those BS rules say. If kerbs were the limits as they were for years and years then this would be avoided entirely or at least in 95% of cases.

Track limits are entirely in the control of the driver - they go out that wide because it's faster. But they decide how far to push it, no one else. To then complain about it is silly - just don't go out there.

The answer is to make going out there slower than not going out there - a 1m wide strip of gravel or wet AstroTurf immediately behind the ribbed kerb. The drivers will then miraculously be able to ride the edge of the kerb and avoid the nasty stuff on the other side.

It's good that they enforced them, it's a shame it takes so long to do it.

[dialtone]

track limit enforcement was magnificent. More of it, every race and consistent.

[organic]

What happened with Perez?

Once we see the tinfoil and/or neon pink & green, we'll know it

Albert Fabrega spotted him in the paddock earlier:

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Haha brilliant. As for Perez he kept having laptimes deleted. I think 3 or 4 times total. He was told each time that he just needs a banker but then breached track limits again! Crazy stuff

[chrisc90]

Really really need to sort that out if they are re-instating laps after Q3.

[langedweil]

The walls of Monaco and Baku are millimeters, so I see no issue. The track is the track, off the track is off.

Nah, it's not the same. Some puny white lines can't hold same significance as solid walls or gravel, I dont care what those BS rules say. If kerbs were the limits as they were for years and years then this would be avoided entirely or at least in 95% of cases.

Track limits are entirely in the control of the driver - they go out that wide because it's faster. But they decide how far to push it, no one else. To then complain about it is silly - just don't go out there.

The answer is to make going out there slower than not going out there - a 1m wide strip of gravel or wet AstroTurf immediately behind the ribbed kerb. The drivers will then miraculously be able to ride the edge of the kerb and avoid the nasty stuff on the other side.

It's good that they enforced them, it's a shame it takes so long to do it.

I'd for sure would rather see a physical barrier (gravel/astro) than this .. everything that is available can be used, so no Walmart asfalted parkinglots behind the kerbs.

[DGP123]

Max might win this title with six or seven races to spare.

[organic]

Max might win this title with six or seven races to spare.

And the crowd goes mild

[langedweil]

Really really need to sort that out if they are re-instating laps after Q3.

That'd be odd

[dren]

After the tracklimits shenanigans Q3 was golden. Good qualy.

Ferrari back up there, those last corners by Charles, wow. Norris showing his talent again. Alo losing to stroll second time. Hmm.

It was close between Fred and Stroll. I'm just glad Stroll is in the mix finally. He's been way off Q pace for a while.

[Mr.S]

Given the race pace Ferrari showed in Canada, if they keep @ it & continue to develop, they will be winning races this year especially given RB has really slowed down on upgrades to focus on next year's car.

Mclaren, surprise of the event. If this was 50% & they have 25% coming in Silverstone & Hungary, they will be seeing many podiums this season. Very difficult to judge race pace but their upgrades in Baku & beyond were already reasonable enough to get near to Alpine level before this big package.

The Gap to RB has shrunk. Aston will probably miss Q3 in Silverstone given Mercedes are bringing a big upgrade (they say biggest of the season), Perez will probably turn sane & Piastri will get Norris's upgrades + 25% more. It is going to be tight. The 1s gap to RB is gone. Everyone will be bunched up within 5/6 tenths. So a few tenths here & there & you are P2/P3/P4 types or you could be out of Q3.

This will be an upgrade race between Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston & Mercedes with Alpine nearby as well.