I'm not sure that Russell switched them on quickly. I think he just had the benefit of being on them a few laps before the other which gave the appearance that his tires were working better than others.JPower wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 23:03I'm curious to see how well they manage the tires against Lewis. The Mercedes doesn't show anything until a third of the way into the race.
Was surprised at how quickly Russell turned the tires on in the sprint as that hasn't been a calling card for them since the ground effect era started.
The commentator here seemed to think that Leclerc was handicapped in the wet by going with a lower downforce setup compared to Sainz. He clearly struggled all through the shootout.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 19:34It really is the same issue with the car in mixed conditions as entire last year, it's just that RB has improved further. For whatever reason, RB is able to keep the car in the window in basically all conditions. I really hope it's not something as trivial as playing around with tyre pressures, as I'm not sure what other suspension setting they are allowed to change in Parc Ferme.
It's disappointing to see Leclerc losing the confidence in the car in these conditions, when he was impeccable last year. I wonder how much of this confidence lost is actually down to losing the will to floor it after being let down by the team so many times again this year.
Are they trying various setups ( on trial n error basis ) on both cars hence both car perform differently ?mzso wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 09:54The commentator here seemed to think that Leclerc was handicapped in the wet by going with a lower downforce setup compared to Sainz. He clearly struggled all through the shootout.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 19:34It really is the same issue with the car in mixed conditions as entire last year, it's just that RB has improved further. For whatever reason, RB is able to keep the car in the window in basically all conditions. I really hope it's not something as trivial as playing around with tyre pressures, as I'm not sure what other suspension setting they are allowed to change in Parc Ferme.
It's disappointing to see Leclerc losing the confidence in the car in these conditions, when he was impeccable last year. I wonder how much of this confidence lost is actually down to losing the will to floor it after being let down by the team so many times again this year.
With the 3-place grid drop he got stuck in traffic, which only amplified the problem with heating up the tyres, since he was 1s slower than Sainz while on Inters. The car is nowhere near perfext, but the sham penalty indees cost the team an easy 3-4 yesterday.
What´s the purpose of racing if overtaking is seen as an unnecessary risk even when it provides some point?
Lecrerc impeding...
Some double standards are extremelly disgusting
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Entering pit lane does not equal to impeding. 19 drivers did enter pit lane without impeding anyone. Lecrerd did so he got a fair penalty
... and being overtaken by Norris due to running wide at the final corner.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:52What´s the purpose of racing if overtaking is seen as an unnecessary risk even when it provides some point?
It was dissapointing watching Lecrerc unable to pass an Alpine
Indeed, but not a change, this is happeing in 3 races in a row now. I said it in Spain after rain hit the track in FP3 so it was cold for Q1, and Lecrerc got eliminated in Q1, but people read it as if I was bashing LecrercCaribouBread wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 12:25Looks like the setup they're running isn't turning the tyres on immediately in these conditions. Quite a change. I'm taking that as a good omen for their tyre woes.
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If it is the case, Leclerc should learn to adapt his driving style to car and external conditions. If colder conditions require a different style which is less gentle on tyres to warm them up, he should start to develop that style for those conditions.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 13:40Indeed, but not a change, this is happeing in 3 races in a row now. I said it in Spain after rain hit the track in FP3 so it was cold for Q1, and Lecrerc got eliminated in Q1, but people read it as if I was bashing LecrercCaribouBread wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 12:25Looks like the setup they're running isn't turning the tyres on immediately in these conditions. Quite a change. I'm taking that as a good omen for their tyre woes.
Then Canada with a damp track, Lecrerc eliminated in Q2.
Now in Austria, same again, cold track after some rain, and Lecrerc got problems and qualified lower than Sainz, even when we all know he´s faster than Sainz in qualifying trim.
Lecrerc is kinder with the tires, wich means with cold track that might be a problem (now confirmed after 3 GPs), but that same problem will be a benefit with hot tracks and also for race trim, wich I think will be better on average
As I also said after Spain qualifying, Ferrari tire problems now are the opposite, they struggle when track is cold, but then their tire wear problems should have beed solved and that should be better for overal race results, as there always are more dry/hot tracks than damp/cold one over a season. Only that last 3 GPs, coincidentally, that was not the case in Q or SQ
Hopefully now people will understand I´m just analysing results, not bashing anyone
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