We had good pitstop as well
mwillems wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:30Would those stewards be safe coming on to the track under a VSC to push a car, let alone that it might be on Fire? Are the cars going around safe under a VSC if there is a car on fire on the track?
Not sure the answer is yes to either of them in my view.
Watch the footage, the car is in the middle of nowhere. The nearest Marshall post is 10’s of meters away. Silverstone is a big circuit with many large open spaces due to it being an old RAF airfield.michl420 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 13:18
To your two questions I would say yes.
I know what you mean, and in this situation they do the right thing (because oft the truck in track).
But when there is a gap in the rail and the car stand one a wide track and can be seen from 500 meters for the upcoming drivers, I see no problem to recover it under VSC (even with a small fire). It is not the 100 % save thing but OK.
I think bias is not a necessary position to conclude that McLaren’s progress stalled through the era of genuinely Key McLarens. Someone who should know this weekend said that the ditching of the MCL60 concept was decided as early as November - I had surmised it had to be at least as early as January or February. Key was strangely absent from the car launch in March and soon after came the announcement of his departure followed by the details of the new management structure. Then it was leaked that there had been simmering discontent that Key had not allowed greater involvement of the aero team in his concepts. Yesterday’s glowing praise of Peter and Neil and others by Stella indicates a much happier and more coherent group “moving forward” as they say!Willy wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 03:32You have made your dislike for James Key apparent due to Riccardo affiliation and as such you blame Key for his problems. I would be happy to hear from someone who has an unbiased take on the matter. Besides, nobody thinks Riccardo could have delivered the result that Oscar did yesterday or so far this season.
It might very well be that this was Key's contribution, but he was fired before things could come to fruition. Stella has taken over from Seidl, not from Key.
Lando mentioned in the post race interviews, he decided to run a bit less downforce than Oscar in case some racey situation happened. He thought it might have been the deciding factor in the defense against HAM.MrGapes wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:05So I didn't even realize, but Lando was running without the gurney and Oscar was thus the downforce differential between the two in the high speed... and to be honest that was a perfect scenario for the first stint. Looking at the telemetry, Oscar didn't lose as much lap time on the straights cause he was able to stay in Lando's split stream whilst maintaining downforce in the corners.
Mclaren had the fastest stop in Austria I think as well…?bauc wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:58We had good pitstop as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j3RURv-urE
Yes, correctCjC wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 16:15Mclaren had the fastest stop in Austria I think as well…?bauc wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:58We had good pitstop as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j3RURv-urE
EDIT: yes they did. A 2.1 second stop
Ahahaha we aren't challenging Red Bull yet, MclarenRacing, you've still got work to do lol
Stockton Rush... is that you?michl420 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 13:18
To your two questions I would say yes.
I know what you mean, and in this situation they do the right thing (because oft the truck in track).
But when there is a gap in the rail and the car stand one a wide track and can be seen from 500 meters for the upcoming drivers, I see no problem to recover it under VSC (even with a small fire). It is not the 100 % save thing but OK.
You are right in this special case. But I hate it that they make things like that always complicated. I looked at Google maps and 30 meters after the bridge there is a road and a 2 m gap in the rail. If the gap would be 3-4 meters the Marshalls can push the car this 40 meters and it is gone (it is made for rolling). For god's sake it is a race track, I bet ther is a failed car 10 times a year. Every second race the same again .djos wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 13:38Watch the footage, the car is in the middle of nowhere. The nearest Marshall post is 10’s of meters away. Silverstone is a big circuit with many large open spaces due to it being an old RAF airfield.michl420 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 13:18
To your two questions I would say yes.
I know what you mean, and in this situation they do the right thing (because oft the truck in track).
But when there is a gap in the rail and the car stand one a wide track and can be seen from 500 meters for the upcoming drivers, I see no problem to recover it under VSC (even with a small fire). It is not the 100 % save thing but OK.