2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 21 - 23

[Gillian]

So Oscar had some damage. That explains his drop in pace - his bit of grass cutting thanks to Checo did enough to take the edge off his race.

Thank you, I asked the same question here. Bit unfortunate for him then.

[Just_a_fan]

Naughty Lando!

[ringo]

As a Merc fan I’m disappointed. We were second quickest so ham really should have been p2. Losing 3 positions at the start completely ruined his race and somehow he was still the first one to pit out of the top 4. Not good. The recovery drive was good but too little too late imo.

Rbr is going to absolutely smash Spa. The perfect season is still on. Unbelievable.

3rd quickest.

Once the fuel burnt off the Mercedes come alive a little more. Dont forget the McLarens were on older tyres too and probably managing that a little bit.

The tire age didn’t justify how much pace Hamilton had over them in that last stint. We were much faster. Even in the second stint on the hards after a bad initial laps ham was catching Mclaren hand over fists and he was on slightly older tires in that stint. Not a great race by ham imo. He should have made sure he extended the first stint more. Was there even an undercut threat? Who cares those positions could be made back.

Piastri had floor damage. Mclaren is still superior.

[chrisc90]

Max had to pull a rabbit from the hat here. He really is the best driver we have ever witnessed. Mercedes should have won this race but threw it away.

Why couldn't he qualify on pole in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen? He got outqualified by a car that was 3rd fastest on this track, outqualified by the 3rd fastest car in Baku, beaten by a poor Perez in Baku too

He should have a 100% pole and win rate with the car advantage & talent he has.

Max sets the car up for the race. Not 1 lap wonder.

[Willy]

So Oscar had some damage. That explains his drop in pace - his bit of grass cutting thanks to Checo did enough to take the edge off his race.

His pace dropped right at the start of second stint, which is not something that can be attributed to a later excursion.

Oscar should have known not to chase the outside, which is something Albon keeps doing so often and most of the times comes off worse. Young guy, so hopefully he can learn how to go about managing the car when a much faster car overtakes him and understand the big picture better.

[cplchanb]

seriously....WTF happened to HAM at the 2nd stint... went from 3 to 10s for no reason 2007 brazil gp vibes again.... this car is really an enigma...
Also he was still being way too lenient on Max on turn 1.... he shouldve put a schumacher chop on him and held his place.

what an extremely disappointed and boring race from turn 2 onwards.

[Mchamilton]

Max had to pull a rabbit from the hat here. He really is the best driver we have ever witnessed. Mercedes should have won this race but threw it away.

Mercedes is indeed a great car, RB aside. Russell still managed to end up in front of the Ferraris, which has significantly better drivers!

But our little Mercedes crew are probably a little worried with the huge improvement from Mclaren.

About Max, if you pair the fastest driver in the field(together with Shal) with the best package/car, that´s what you get, records being broken.

You think sainz is better than Russell? Based on what?

[Alex_Z]

Max had to pull a rabbit from the hat here. He really is the best driver we have ever witnessed. Mercedes should have won this race but threw it away.

Why couldn't he qualify on pole in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen? He got outqualified by a car that was 3rd fastest on this track, outqualified by the 3rd fastest car in Baku, beaten by a poor Perez in Baku too

He should have a 100% pole and win rate with the car advantage & talent he has.

Max sets the car up for the race. Not 1 lap wonder.

The car should have easily qualified 3 tenths ahead of P2 but he failed. The most dominant car of all time should not be outqualified by the 3rd fastest car (twice this season) in normal circumstances.

[chrisc90]

I do wonder how soon he could lock out the championship if he theoretically wins every race from now on?

I have this stat available for you. Keeping track of it.

Sigapore is the current earliest.....IF Checo manages P2 at each race. Where Checo finishes is how early Max can take it.



Thats not taking into account the Spa Sprint next weekend, but only 1 point difference really.


Thats with the max available points tweaked for Spa. Perez would need to drop 9 points from the maximum possible for Max to take the trophy in Monza (whilst Max picks up the most)

[chrisc90]

The car should have easily qualified 3 tenths ahead of P2 but he failed. The most dominant car of all time should not be outqualified by the 3rd fastest car (twice this season) in normal circumstances.

Reported expletives removed...

I'm not wrong though. Look how close the gaps are in qualifying....and how close the others are to RB/Max....Yet the race comes and suddenly the gap changes to over -.5 second, or in the case today about a second a lap.

[Hammerfist]

3rd quickest.

Once the fuel burnt off the Mercedes come alive a little more. Dont forget the McLarens were on older tyres too and probably managing that a little bit.

The tire age didn’t justify how much pace Hamilton had over them in that last stint. We were much faster. Even in the second stint on the hards after a bad initial laps ham was catching Mclaren hand over fists and he was on slightly older tires in that stint. Not a great race by ham imo. He should have made sure he extended the first stint more. Was there even an undercut threat? Who cares those positions could be made back.

Piastri had floor damage. Mclaren is still superior.

The damage happened much later and ham had a pace advantage over both Mclarens midway through his hard tire stint. Took too much time to warm up the hards is the reason why he found himself 9 sec back.

[Willy]

seriously....WTF happened to HAM at the 2nd stint... went from 3 to 10s for no reason.... this car is really an enigma...
Also he was still being way too lenient on Max on turn 1.... he shouldve put a schumacher chop on him and held his place.

what an extremely disappointed and boring race from turn 2 onwards.

Schumacher chop? How much more?

[214270]

So Oscar had some damage. That explains his drop in pace - his bit of grass cutting thanks to Checo did enough to take the edge off his race.

His pace dropped right at the start of second stint, which is not something that can be attributed to a later excursion.

Yeah, post-race radio with his engineer puts blame on the tyre usage thru the stint.

EDIT: Rdio exchange added

[cplchanb]

seriously....WTF happened to HAM at the 2nd stint... went from 3 to 10s for no reason.... this car is really an enigma...
Also he was still being way too lenient on Max on turn 1.... he shouldve put a schumacher chop on him and held his place.

what an extremely disappointed and boring race from turn 2 onwards.

Schumacher chop? How much more?

https://i.postimg.cc/9FZFTHR0/START.png

the squeeze happened too late... within 10m off the line was the time to do it.

[Sieper]

Hamilton did all he could. Max just had the better start and did it cleanly. In fact, hamilton should have gone for the wide approach of turn 1 after Max was there, then he could have countered Piastri. Now he lost the podium in 600 meter. They had a good car here. Maybe not so much on the hard tire, but otherwise yes. Now he had to sit out stint 1.