2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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Helmut Marko is brilliant when it comes to making driver decisions. With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive, while RBR will have DR in good shape to jump back into RBR if SP failed.

I guess replacing Nyck de Vries was the right decision for both AlphaTauri and RBR afterall

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Helmut Marko is brilliant when it comes to making driver decisions. With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive, while RBR will have DR in good shape to jump back into RBR if SP failed.

I guess replacing Nyck de Vries was the right decision for both AlphaTauri and RBR afterall

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CHT wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 04:26
With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive
:-k
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Bill wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 18:47
runningmanz wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 16:56
Great drive from Ricciardo considering he was taken out by Zhou at the start and was almost last out of T1 after that. He was very consistent on those mediums which he made last 40 laps. Was lapping faster than Yuki who was on younger tyres. Could have been in the points if not for that goose Zhou!!
i dont understand why alpha tauri left yuki on the hard for so long .its like they were determined to get riccardo ahead of him no matter what.he should have pitted with the pack he was racing with the like of Albon ,he lost a lot of time on worn tires.they failed to capitalise on his good start and one u get stark behind slow cars u go nowhere.
Doubt they deliberately tried to put DR first, bit early to start the conspiracy theories. Teams get it wrong sometimes and don't always maximize results. Still Dan was lapping faster even on older tyres and had alot of work to do from dead last after that T1 punt. Amazing to make those mediums last 40 laps and pull in a fastest lap on them around lap 38!

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Farnborough wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 19:51
djos wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 01:51
runningmanz wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:24
Fantastic work from Dan in his first qualli with AT. Hardly any time in this car and bangs in P13, and outqualifies Stroll, Gasly and Albon! First time AT in Q2 for 4 races.

Perez was shocking again today in P9, miles off Max again . Would not be surprised if they swap DR and Perez before the end of the season if this continues.
Honey Badger is back! I recall Max calling Daniel a qualifying machine, and it looks like his ability to find more speed when it counts is back! =D>
Yup, a pretty tidy weekend to start off with. Kept it calm throughout and just quietly worked away with what he had.

I do recall Jos Verstappen (I think) giving credit to DR about qualifying, how he went about it, focus, targeting etc and how much MV learnt from him.

Looking forward to more races to see how DR, AT & YS get on in remaining season races.
yeah couldn't really have asked for a better start to his time with AT other than maybe getting a point if he didn't get that contact from Zhou.

Didn't know about the comments from Jos. Nice to hear.

yeah Dan said post race on the radio he was excited for the next few races



Would be awesome for them to pull AT up the grid. Hopefully Dans input helps alot with that. I heard Tost or someone else mention the team were really happy with his car feedback.

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Farnborough wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 19:51
djos wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 01:51
runningmanz wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:24
Fantastic work from Dan in his first qualli with AT. Hardly any time in this car and bangs in P13, and outqualifies Stroll, Gasly and Albon! First time AT in Q2 for 4 races.

Perez was shocking again today in P9, miles off Max again . Would not be surprised if they swap DR and Perez before the end of the season if this continues.
Honey Badger is back! I recall Max calling Daniel a qualifying machine, and it looks like his ability to find more speed when it counts is back! =D>
Yup, a pretty tidy weekend to start off with. Kept it calm throughout and just quietly worked away with what he had.

I do recall Jos Verstappen (I think) giving credit to DR about qualifying, how he went about it, focus, targeting etc and how much MV learnt from him.

Looking forward to more races to see how DR, AT & YS get on in remaining season races.
yeah I found that article now about Jos. I recall it now.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/jos-max-v ... ricciardo/

Nice to see Marko, Tost and Horner wishing Dan luck on track before the race too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... r_wishing/

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runningmanz wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 04:45
Bill wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 18:47
runningmanz wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 16:56
Great drive from Ricciardo considering he was taken out by Zhou at the start and was almost last out of T1 after that. He was very consistent on those mediums which he made last 40 laps. Was lapping faster than Yuki who was on younger tyres. Could have been in the points if not for that goose Zhou!!
i dont understand why alpha tauri left yuki on the hard for so long .its like they were determined to get riccardo ahead of him no matter what.he should have pitted with the pack he was racing with the like of Albon ,he lost a lot of time on worn tires.they failed to capitalise on his good start and one u get stark behind slow cars u go nowhere.
Doubt they deliberately tried to put DR first, bit early to start the conspiracy theories. Teams get it wrong sometimes and don't always maximize results. Still Dan was lapping faster even on older tyres and had alot of work to do from dead last after that T1 punt. Amazing to make those mediums last 40 laps and pull in a fastest lap on them around lap 38!
they didn't get it wrong they knew what they were doing .they is an optimum strategy and others.if u stay on worn tires for long and guys you are racing pit its obvious u going lose time and position

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As I mentioned in the RBR topic, Daniel made his alternate strategy work by getting 40 laps out of his Medium tires, and managing to get good performance out of them too.
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Daniel strategy is irrelevant ,the point is why did they keep Yuki on worn tires for long they is nothing to gain but lose time.he should have finished just ahead of Bottas where he was in the first phase of pitstop.

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Yuki didn’t exactly have great race pace so I’m not sure it mattered all that much. Daniel was faster on medium tires that had already done 11 laps, and made them live for another 40 laps.
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CHT wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 04:26
With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive
I was truely surprised by the series "who had the worst sleep last night" on the German motorsports network. I expected to read about Yuki, but it was Alpine. Alpine is not totally wrong, but a first corner crash is also not telling anything.

I would have expected Yuki...because he was fair and square beaten by Ricciardo in Q and the race, who was half a year out of F1 with a very bad 2022 and drove the AT for the first time.
For me, although I do not like this, this is the end of Yuki's F1 career. He needs a 180° turn to get going again, but I can not foresee this happening. He did not make a single step forward, it was just De Fries who made him look better than last year. Now the difference to Ric can only grow bigger...

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24 Jul 2023, 08:35
Daniel strategy is irrelevant ,the point is why did they keep Yuki on worn tires for long they is nothing to gain but lose time.he should have finished just ahead of Bottas where he was in the first phase of pitstop.
He had only new Mediums left and could not keep the Hards together. They needed to stretch the Hard stint otherwise he would have been a sitting duck on the Mediums. And there was nothing to win. To get a better track position he would have needed to pit before lap 39 to cover the undercut by Hulkenberg. How should a 30+ lap Medium stint have worked if he struggled with 30 laps on the Hards?
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basti313 wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 11:01
CHT wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 04:26
With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive
I was truely surprised by the series "who had the worst sleep last night" on the German motorsports network. I expected to read about Yuki, but it was Alpine. Alpine is not totally wrong, but a first corner crash is also not telling anything.

I would have expected Yuki...because he was fair and square beaten by Ricciardo in Q and the race, who was half a year out of F1 with a very bad 2022 and drove the AT for the first time.
For me, although I do not like this, this is the end of Yuki's F1 career. He needs a 180° turn to get going again, but I can not foresee this happening. He did not make a single step forward, it was just De Fries who made him look better than last year. Now the difference to Ric can only grow bigger...

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Bill wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 08:35
Daniel strategy is irrelevant ,the point is why did they keep Yuki on worn tires for long they is nothing to gain but lose time.he should have finished just ahead of Bottas where he was in the first phase of pitstop.
He had only new Mediums left and could not keep the Hards together. They needed to stretch the Hard stint otherwise he would have been a sitting duck on the Mediums. And there was nothing to win. To get a better track position he would have needed to pit before lap 39 to cover the undercut by Hulkenberg. How should a 30+ lap Medium stint have worked if he struggled with 30 laps on the Hards?
Yuri is a Honda driver I think..as long as he doesn't crashes his car often his seat should be safe.

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its easy to keep tire in good condition ones all the fuel has burned up.

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CHT wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 12:09
basti313 wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 11:01
CHT wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 04:26
With DR back, Perez and Yuri will now need to drive to survive
I was truely surprised by the series "who had the worst sleep last night" on the German motorsports network. I expected to read about Yuki, but it was Alpine. Alpine is not totally wrong, but a first corner crash is also not telling anything.

I would have expected Yuki...because he was fair and square beaten by Ricciardo in Q and the race, who was half a year out of F1 with a very bad 2022 and drove the AT for the first time.
For me, although I do not like this, this is the end of Yuki's F1 career. He needs a 180° turn to get going again, but I can not foresee this happening. He did not make a single step forward, it was just De Fries who made him look better than last year. Now the difference to Ric can only grow bigger...

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Bill wrote:
24 Jul 2023, 08:35
Daniel strategy is irrelevant ,the point is why did they keep Yuki on worn tires for long they is nothing to gain but lose time.he should have finished just ahead of Bottas where he was in the first phase of pitstop.
He had only new Mediums left and could not keep the Hards together. They needed to stretch the Hard stint otherwise he would have been a sitting duck on the Mediums. And there was nothing to win. To get a better track position he would have needed to pit before lap 39 to cover the undercut by Hulkenberg. How should a 30+ lap Medium stint have worked if he struggled with 30 laps on the Hards?
Yuri is a Honda driver I think..as long as he doesn't crashes his car often his seat should be safe.
This is a small factor in my point of view as this is not part of the engine deal:
With the quit of Honda nothing changed and Yuki could crash a lot...he is at first a RedBull junior, he was even the only young RedBull junior left...
Now with RedBull and Honda separating I fear this might be his last year. His only chance is the lack of alternatives if Perez needs to be replaced. If not I rather expect Ric and Lawson next year in the Torro.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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runningmanz wrote:
23 Jul 2023, 16:56
Great drive from Ricciardo considering he was taken out by Zhou at the start and was almost last out of T1 after that. He was very consistent on those mediums which he made last 40 laps. Was lapping faster than Yuki who was on younger tyres. Could have been in the points if not for that goose Zhou!!
Yes, it was a good comeback race for Danny and after seeing his performance in Hungary, it is safe to say that he's going to score a few points soon.
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