2023 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 28 - 30

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omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I'd be surprised to see them make a rookie error like that.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:55
Yuki Vs Daniel anyone? How did Danielle begin so far down? what happened?
Had a laptime good enough for Q2 deleted in qualifying on inter tyres and was knocked out in Q1. Then just traffic-affected race, but I feel his pace in the dry wasn't epic

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I think Perez will be back on the podium from now on. I don't know what happened in that stretch of races but if he start top 5 he'll easily get p2 now.

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Matt2725 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:55
omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I'd be surprised to see them make a rookie error like that.
What happened?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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DGP123 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:36
organic wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:35
napoleon1981 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:34
Interesting interview from Perez. Thinks he did a good job and is convinced he couldnt have done anything in the same car on the same tire....
Is he trying to imply he doesn't have the same car?
He’s probably telling the truth.
I think the cars a different. Something is just different than the earlier parts of the season.
We all know Max is a better driver. But even in phases of the lap where there is little driver input he is blazing towards Perez.
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chrisc90 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:58
Matt2725 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:55
omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I'd be surprised to see them make a rookie error like that.
What happened?
It sounds like he might've used an engine mode that customers are told they can't use in the race?

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ringo wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:58
DGP123 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:36
organic wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:35


Is he trying to imply he doesn't have the same car?
He’s probably telling the truth.
I think the cars a different. Something is just different than the earlier parts of the season.
We all know Max is a better driver. But even in phases of the lap where there is little driver input he is blazing towards Perez.
We saw the same in the rb16b when the cars were the same back then. Why believe something so outlandish as the team lying to Perez and everyone else.. when it's much simpler and extremely obvious that Perez is not much quicker than a driver like Stroll which was apparent from his 2020 season alongside Stroll

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organic wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:59
chrisc90 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:58
Matt2725 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:55


I'd be surprised to see them make a rookie error like that.
surely it could only be deployment mode?

Are those locked in between customer teams? Could AMR be onto something?

What happened?
It sounds like he might've used an engine mode that customers are told they can't use in the race?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I thought this was standard stuff.

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DChemTech wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
Just_a_fan wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:45
Willy wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:40
Fastest car ever built, W11. Master piece. Still couldn't manage the records that RB19 has.
The question was about speed relative to the field. That means the cars it is actually racing. Compared to the cars it is actually racing, the RB19 is quicker than the W11 was. LikeWise the RB18 before it.
If it were, we'd see an RB 1-2 every week. Instead, we see one driver that is not guaranteed to be on the podium even. Good to see he did manage again this time though.
Sadly, that line of discussion goes down the driver ying-yang rabbit hole where the Mods live, so I'm out... 8)
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Alonso making trouble again with engine supplier. He might just piss off merceded like he did Honda.
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Juzh wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 17:04
omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I thought this was standard stuff.
I think the wording of the rules might come I to play here. If Merc use a mode others are prevented from using, I believe that is against the technical regulations, no?

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Verstappen would probably win this with both a ferrari or a mercedes, beginning to think the real redbull level is what perez shows, the rest is Verstappen.

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Zynerji wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 17:07
Juzh wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 17:04
omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I thought this was standard stuff.
I think the wording of the rules might come I to play here. If Merc use a mode others are prevented from using, I believe that is against the technical regulations, no?
It could well be. Has anyone got the onboard from Alonso on the last lap?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Juzh wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 17:04
omegacel71 wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 16:53
The radio message from Alonso
I thought this was standard stuff.
Can you explain it for someone who doesn't know the technical part of it

I haven't seen any complaint raised officially yet from AM